Author Topic: The Sequel - Oh Blimey I bought a CNC Lathe (Beaver TC 20)  (Read 709208 times)

Offline BillTodd

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Re: The Sequel - Oh Blimey I bought a CNC Lathe (Beaver TC 20)
« Reply #1300 on: January 10, 2026, 04:00:06 PM »
Haas use electric cooker elements (the spiral ones) stacked to give the required resistance
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Re: The Sequel - Oh Blimey I bought a CNC Lathe (Beaver TC 20)
« Reply #1301 on: January 12, 2026, 12:36:20 PM »
Yes, glad to see you working on it, too, Andrew. Though it also looks like a pain! Reminds me of a giant scale version of my little plastic welder's problem -- which I never did fix, BTW.  :beer:
I love it when a Plan B comes together!
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Re: The Sequel - Oh Blimey I bought a CNC Lathe (Beaver TC 20)
« Reply #1302 on: January 19, 2026, 08:40:51 AM »
So time ticks by !

Several false starts winding the resistor: Firstly hand winding it is a pain (literally) the wire is very springy and hard to tension - anyway I persisted, got an ugly looking resistor but it's resistance was far too low.

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Turns out my calculations were wrong on two counts - wire diameter was actually 1mm not 0.9 as measured - the bit I measured was wasted down by being repeatedly  heated - and the turns count was wrong due to the mounting arrangement obscuring things as there were actually extra inactive turns used for the terminations. Re-working the calculations proved that it actually is wound from the more common Ni-Chrome wire. So I ordered up a reel of 1mm Ni-Chrome and wound another resistor. To aid winding I made up a bolt on adapter for the frame allowing me to mount it between centres on the lathe (still hand turned), this allow me to have better control on the tension - if only the reel of wire had been long enough  :bang:

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Re: The Sequel - Oh Blimey I bought a CNC Lathe (Beaver TC 20)
« Reply #1303 on: January 19, 2026, 09:07:19 AM »
Still in the end I did end up with a fairly neat winding and when all was re-assembled and the two halves of the resistor paralleled up it measured exactly and precisely 3.3 ohms - phew what a load of bother for a simple wire wound resistor.

Re-assembling it all on the machine went reasonably well - I thought I'd leave testing to the following day. But in the night I woke up in a sweat thinking 'did I remove that melted dribble of resistance wire on the upper cage frame ?' Of course I had to pull it all apart again to check and sure enough I hadn't - the power of dreams - lucky really.

Anyway testing at least didn't result in the previous glowing fire that I'd had previously - controller came ready but when I pressed 'Reset' to initialise things it went into eStop and dropped the servo crate power displaying:

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Decoding the error message it was implying that the Z position encoder was out of phase, shorted or disconnected. Now the encoder and it's wiring are not the easiest things to access and are far removed from where all the trouble had been. My first suspicion was the servo cards immediately below where that resistance wire had melted and dripped however changing them made not an iota of difference.

OK bite the bullet - open things up - get to the back of the Sinumerik controller by sliding it out of the cabinet onto its shelf so now at least I can see the Z axis encoder cable where it plugs into the Siemens 'measuring card' that takes all four encoders. Nothing looked amiss - suppose it's the measuring card itself? Fortunately I had a spare. A bit of gymnastics - old card out - new card in and lets see:

Whoohay - I can now jog X and Z axis for the first time in months  :ddb: :ddb:

At that point I decided to quit while I was ahead and reserve more testing for tomorrow - there's only so much excitement I can take these days  :lol:
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Re: The Sequel - Oh Blimey I bought a CNC Lathe (Beaver TC 20)
« Reply #1304 on: January 19, 2026, 09:14:12 AM »
Well done!

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Re: The Sequel - Oh Blimey I bought a CNC Lathe (Beaver TC 20)
« Reply #1305 on: January 19, 2026, 10:35:03 AM »
Thanks.
The good luck continues - OK I've used my one and only 'Measuring Card' spare.

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Best see if any are available on eBay - oh yes several in the price range just below and quite a bit above 1000 UKP - yikes. Then I found a UK dealer clearing his stock -  20 UKP inc postage - never hit a 'buy it now' key quite os fast !
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