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Project Loco
« on: March 19, 2009, 05:49:16 AM »
Im not sure if this is the correct place to put this ( if not could mods please move to correct place please)

I bought my first lathe a few months back as im getting close to retirement and have always wanted to build
my own steam locos.
this is the lathe I bought from a local supplyer


I have started building a loco from Brian Willsons book Steam trains in your Garden.



so far I have made some of the parts as im slowly learning tou use the lathe
Axels

Boiler

the frame assembled

I bought the frame from a supplyer who lasercuts them much easier for me :D

and also a gas burner for one of my mamod locos


I have also mad 3 of the 4 wheels and will post pictures when ive finished

cheers Graham

this is my progress so far

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2009, 06:02:49 AM »
Great Progress Graham. :clap:

Impressed with the boiler I've yet to takle mine.

I had my frames laser cut it doesn't cost a fortune and saves an aching arm and a fortune in haxsaw blades, and you end up with a real acurate job get the frames wrong and the loco won't stay on the track.

Have fun
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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2009, 10:22:58 AM »
Hi Graham,

You've posted in the right place.

Excellent start of a post to with a picture of the lathe you are going to use.  :thumbup:

Very nice job on that boiler. Very clean solder joints.  :thumbup:

Keep up the great work.  :ddb:

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2009, 01:06:01 PM »
Looks good !! I m fixin' to get ready to build my first engine. The Wobbler
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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2009, 01:32:14 PM »
By `ek Graham,

It didn`t take you long to start your own project post!  :bugeye:

Showing lots of pics allows you to cut down on the amount typing.   :thumbup:

Well done mate!  :clap:

Just a thought, a vid of Marvin doing his thing, would be a first on here I think.....  :D

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2009, 03:55:07 PM »
sounds like a good idea David :D

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2009, 08:06:37 PM »
Here is an update

I had some blanks for the wheels so put them in the lathe and drilled the holes for the axels.
next i put a spare bit of stock in and made a mandrel to hold the wheels



here is the completed wheels fitted to the frame



now to start the cylinders a daunting task for a newbie   ::)


standby for future developments :D

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2009, 08:20:39 PM »
Oh we're standing by,

That's looking like a very tidy build  :thumbup:
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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2009, 10:45:00 PM »
Thanks Darren but I have stuffed up the first cylinder  :(
over enthusiastic with the cutting :bang:
oh well we learn as we go I guess back to the drawing board ::)

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2009, 10:50:55 PM »
Nice start you have going there. Don't worry about the mess up, we all make em.

Keep the pictures coming.

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2009, 02:27:52 AM »
Nice work Dave

Pity about the cylinder, I cocked my first attemp up  :doh: you live and learn, we've all got big scrap boxes.

Have fun
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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2009, 03:28:43 AM »
Graham,

A pity about your first cylinder.  ::)

BUT, it`s certainly not scrap...... It`s a big bore special:clap:

Yer doin` well mate!  :thumbup:

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« Last Edit: March 22, 2009, 04:22:55 AM by Stilldrillin »
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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2009, 03:33:36 AM »
Great progress Graham. :thumbup:

Do you ever get the temptation when noone is looking to push the frame around making 'choo choo' noises? ::)

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2009, 04:36:13 AM »
Great progress Graham. :thumbup:

Do you ever get the temptation when noone is looking to push the frame around making 'choo choo' noises? ::)



You may jest but I sneaked onto my clubs track when no one was about and pushed my frame around, on the excuse that I was making sure it would fit but in reality I was dreaming of it going round under steam.

Choo, Chooo Choooo
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Whoo whooo whoooooooo

 :lol:   :lol:

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2009, 04:37:57 AM »
 :lol: i certainly do John and when they are watching as well :lol:

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2009, 04:39:43 AM »
Oh what a relief! I was thinking there might be something wrong with me! :lol:
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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2009, 11:50:53 AM »
Oh good... maybe I am not so crazy for sitting on a bare motorcycle frame going 'vroom vroom'   :doh:

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2009, 11:56:16 AM »
I`ve just put a toy steam engine back on the shelf, after spending 1/2 hr gently rotating the flywheel & "musing".......  ::)

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2009, 02:17:19 PM »
Bunch of sado's the lot of you.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2009, 02:56:28 PM »
Bunch of sado's the lot of you.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh like when you built that car of yours... you didn't sit in the frame with wheel in hand??

 :lol: :lol:

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« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2009, 03:01:13 PM »
You got me there Eric, good call  :lol: :lol: :lol:

I remember it well  :clap:
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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2009, 02:57:17 AM »
"Exercising the imagination".......  :D

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2009, 03:21:27 AM »
its a worry what grown men get upto :scratch:

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« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2009, 05:15:46 AM »
Just show me the grown men on here, we are all kids at heart.

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2009, 05:30:24 AM »
My Wife recons I'm 60 going on 12.

Can't waite to be 13 so I can start chasing girls   :D  :)

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2009, 06:08:43 AM »
a small update

I faced of a piece of 38mm round stock in the four jaw chuck till I go the correct sizes.


then lined up for the center of the cylinder and drilled it out in the lathe, increasing the drill size 1mm at atime till I got to the required size



then with a reamer in the chuck in the tailstock I reamed the hole to finish the cylinder. I turned the 4 jaw chuck by hand as i slowly turned in the reamer.



thats all for now :D

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2009, 03:19:44 PM »
Like the use of packing under the jaws to stop damage  :thumbup:  nice one.

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2009, 04:03:13 PM »
Thanks Stew :D
here are a couple of pics to show how they fit to the loco. I have drilled and taped one hole on the front of each cylinder for mounting
the other hole will be marked out after final cylinder alignment  :D
I havent drilled the port holes yet so still some work to be done. Im going to need a Mill for this I think to get accuracy




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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2009, 05:58:56 PM »
Hi Shoey

You can sucessfuly mill the ports in a lathe using a vertical slide.

This is what they are like you can get them to fit most lathes.

http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Machines-Accessories/Lathe-Accessories

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2009, 06:15:22 PM »
thanks Stew for that only problem is that I dont have slots in my cross slide to mount one

I would have to drill and tap it ::)

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« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2009, 06:41:07 PM »
When you look at it, even though for many years people would always use their lathe for milling, it isn't the ideal way to go nowadays. It is OK for the very occasional job, but for large project work such as this, not really the way to go.

By the time you have bought all the bits to do things on the lathe, and made all the special fixtures for doing the job, it is in fact a lot more cost effective saving your pennies up a bit longer, and sourcing either a second hand or small mill.

There must be thousands of vertical slides sitting under benches, never to see the light of day again. By the time you have bought a decent versatile vertical slide, and purchased a vice to fit it, you would most probably be half way to the cost of a mini mill.

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2009, 08:16:46 PM »
thanks John for you input much appreciated
I can get a small mill for around $1000 here made in china of course but not sure it will do the job

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« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2009, 08:56:55 PM »
Shoey,

I forgot to check where you lived. It seems you can't get much second hand or reasonably priced stuff In Oz.

It also seems that other model machinists are like the fast dog syndrome. Your dogs are the fastest in the world because the trees are so far apart. It seems the machinists are the same. So no-one near to get a little milling job done.

Maybe you should ask on here if there is anyone living within striking distance from you, so you can share facilities. I know we are only small at the moment, but we are growing fast, with new international members every day.

In fact, I do small machining jobs for a chap in OZ. I have one to do for him that has only just come in. He sends me the sketch by email, I machine it up and then send it to him, he then sends the payment. It suits him, suits me as well.
He lives in the middle of nowhere, and he says it is a days drive to get to the nearest very expensive machine shop. Goodness knows where he is going to sail his steam powered model boat when he gets it finished.

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2009, 09:25:10 PM »
Thanks John
maybe he has a large dam in his back yard so he can steam it on there :D

not sure who is around me as I live on the north side of Brisbane

cheers Graham

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2009, 01:40:42 AM »
I considered a small mill for a very very long time.. and had planned to get one of those mill/drill R8 machines with the round column you see everywhere. Price in USD from 500-2000 depending on options.

In the end keeping an eye on E-bay and what was near to me.. (200 miles is drivable if the deal is good) I ran across the Acra Bridgey clone I bought. It is a 97, and was in pretty damn good shape (per the machinist friends I have) And the best.. I paid 1400 for it with a huge bridgeport vice and servo feed.

THing is.. if you have the room.. granted your locale may prevent you finding one cheap... look around and you may find something show up in a auction for cheap.
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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2009, 11:37:23 PM »
here is an update
after the disaster with my first cylinder I remade it.
I have drilled the exhaust port and drilled and taped the holes for the front and rear covers.

I broke a 10BA tap  :bang: but the holes are ok.



now to redo the other cylinder :D
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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2009, 01:27:49 AM »
Looking Good  :thumbup:

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2009, 03:33:59 AM »
Wot he said!  :thumbup:

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2009, 04:49:04 AM »
another update

had a fun weekend in the workshop. has been pelting rain all weekend and Im on call so couldnt go any where.

made the pistons and made the first steam chest my first go on the mill. I am a happy chappy :D

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2009, 04:53:32 AM »
That looks square, something similar to what I have to do soon, looking good there  :thumbup:
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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2009, 05:33:12 AM »
Are you using a set of castings for your loco build or bar stock ?.

Nice bit of milling by the way

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2009, 06:58:34 AM »
thanks Stew
Im using bar stock to build the engines

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« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2009, 07:12:20 AM »
Graham,

That is progressing really well.

Here is a tip if you want a bit of sheet steel for your loco.

Old computer cases are a good source, and the paint usually stays on it when cut. Two thicknesses normally, the interior plate is usually a little thinner. Old white goods are a good source as well, but the paint flakes off very easily, so a quickie flash over with a blowtorch and the paint usually peels off and you have nice bare metal, a good, strong bit of plate.

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #43 on: April 16, 2009, 05:37:32 PM »
thanks for the great tip mate :D

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #44 on: June 08, 2009, 03:16:59 AM »
there has been a bit of a holdup on this project as I need to source some small sized steel hex bar for some of the pins that need to be made.
will post changes when they happen
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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #45 on: June 08, 2009, 03:30:53 AM »
Graham,

Just keep `em coming, as & when.....  :thumbup:

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #46 on: June 08, 2009, 03:41:56 AM »
thanks David here is a pic to show where Im at


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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2009, 03:55:30 AM »
Graham

That looks a lovely bit of work.

 :clap: :clap: :clap:

A good source of hex bar for pins is old allan keys, if you can drop on some the correct size, its nice and tough great for pins.

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2009, 04:25:04 AM »
By `ek Graham!  :bugeye:

Knowing our more, "uncomplicated" background, that looks great! You`re making a proper big lads toy.....  :clap:

All power to your elbow mate.  :thumbup:

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« Reply #49 on: June 08, 2009, 05:09:53 AM »
If there was a blushing icon thingy I would ad it here.

thanks for the kind praise Stew and David.

but a couple of the small brass items are cast brass lost wax method that I bought locally from the gentleman who wrote the book Im using to build this loco. I just had to do a bit of filing, drilling and tapping to fit them.

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« Reply #50 on: June 15, 2009, 10:17:37 AM »
Great tip on the alan keys Stew, will probably find myself running out of them one day! Or just a lot of short ones!  :lol:  :doh: Sounds a really good idea though, as you said, come in a variety of sizes and they obviously go straight in the 3 jaw. what are they like to machine?
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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #51 on: June 15, 2009, 10:21:58 AM »
Great tip on the alan keys Stew, will probably find myself running out of them one day! Or just a lot of short ones!  :lol:  :doh: Sounds a really good idea though, as you said, come in a variety of sizes and they obviously go straight in the 3 jaw. what are they like to machine?

A bit like a tough silver still, but well capable.  :hammer:


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« Reply #52 on: June 20, 2009, 06:48:42 PM »
small update

completed the linkages to one side of loco



tested my eyesight with the size of some of those pins I had to turn out  ::)

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #53 on: June 21, 2009, 01:43:40 AM »
Looking good Graham  :thumbup:

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #54 on: June 21, 2009, 03:43:12 AM »
By `ek Graham!  :bugeye:

That really does look the business.......  :clap:

You sure you haven`t done that sort of thing before?   :scratch:

Blummin well done mate.....  :thumbup:

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« Reply #55 on: June 21, 2009, 03:50:45 AM »
definitely haven't done this sort of thing before mate
learning on the job as they say :D

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« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2009, 04:05:54 AM »
Some people spend a lifetime......

To others it comes naturally.......

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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #57 on: June 21, 2009, 04:54:17 AM »
Mean to ask Graham

What did you make your pins out of, I've got to make a load of pins for my Loco build the plans call for silver steel (drill rod), also how will you fix the bolts to the motion to stop them coming undone, after speaking to some of the guys at my club it seams to be a perpetual problem to have nuts falling off during a run, just a walk round the track can yield quite a few, a good cheap source  :lol:

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« Reply #58 on: June 21, 2009, 05:41:26 AM »
I thank you David that is a great compliment :D

Stew I have made them all from mild steel and the problem of loose nuts etc im planning to use loctite hopefully that works ok for me

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« Reply #59 on: June 21, 2009, 05:45:07 AM »
Nice build there Graham..... :clap:

Stew, I suppose lockwire is out of the question on external fasteners, but would you consider it for the hidden ones. Might give a piece of mind...
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Re: Project Loco
« Reply #60 on: June 21, 2009, 06:46:09 AM »
Hi Darren

Unlike Graham the motion works of my loco is between the frames so won't be seen, lockwire may not be a bad idea it all depends as to what space I've got to get in with my fingers, I was considering loctite like Graham I've also bought some self locking M3 nuts that I may give a try.

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« Reply #61 on: April 16, 2010, 11:07:56 PM »
Im sorry I havent updated this in a while as I bought a secondhand 7.25 gauge loco and it need some repairs. each time I fix one thing something else broke :( chimney has fallen off this time so more repairs. Hopefully get back to this one soon
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« Reply #62 on: April 17, 2010, 03:47:55 AM »
Im sorry I havent updated this in a while as I bought a secondhand 7.25 gauge loco and it need some repairs. each time I fix one thing something else broke :( chimney has fallen off this time so more repairs. Hopefully get back to this one soon
cheers Graham

Hi Graham!

It`s nice to know you`ve only taken a step sideways. Not abandoned......  :thumbup:

I know a little of your 7.25" problems.....  ::)   But, others on here have never seen you and yours in operation, in happy mode......   :D

Any chance of a vid mate?

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« Reply #63 on: April 17, 2010, 04:46:28 AM »
Im sorry I havent updated this in a while as I bought a secondhand 7.25 gauge loco and it need some repairs. each time I fix one thing something else broke :( chimney has fallen off this time so more repairs. Hopefully get back to this one soon
cheers Graham

Hi Graham!

It`s nice to know you`ve only taken a step sideways. Not abandoned......  :thumbup:

I know a little of your 7.25" problems.....  ::)   But, others on here have never seen you and yours in operation, in happy mode......   :D

Any chance of a vid mate?

David D


Me too me too me too

I'd me very interested in that 7 1/2 " loco project Graham

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« Reply #64 on: April 17, 2010, 05:14:55 PM »
Thanks David for the encouragement :)
for those who dont know I bought a small loco from a chap who was desperate to sell it and it was at a good price. I have had a couple of problems with it but ive always managed to repair or manufacture replacement parts.

here is a video of it running its the little blue lco in the video :D
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« Reply #65 on: April 18, 2010, 01:23:30 AM »
Great Video Graham

Nice running little engine, all your work seems to have paid off.  :thumbup:

That looks like a very large track, tracks in the UK are a lot smaller I guess thats the price you pay living in a small crowded country.

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« Reply #66 on: April 18, 2010, 01:29:13 AM »
thanks Stew but thats a small club track compared to the one thats local to me.
the total lenth is about 800 mtrs  the other is about 2km on mainline :headbang:

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« Reply #67 on: April 18, 2010, 08:28:48 AM »
Thanks Graham!  :thumbup:

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« Reply #68 on: July 09, 2010, 07:51:58 PM »
shoey51

How are you getting on with your loco? Hopefully the various repairs that you made to it have held up and you have been able to get lots of time on it since your last report.  :D :D

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« Reply #69 on: July 09, 2010, 09:43:28 PM »
Hi Don found another problem with the tender this time and needs major repairs.
Im planning on serialising on here in another thread. this project is definitely on the back burner  :(

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« Reply #70 on: July 09, 2010, 09:58:03 PM »
shoey51

Sorry to here that. I will look forward to your repair post as you get to them. :D

Thanks for the update.

Cheers  :beer:

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