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PekkaNF:
One very little understood explanation of the knowledge in the ancient times is that sometimes even a bit esoteric knowledge was considered either dangerous or sacred - pretty dangerous/volatile stuff anyways. Therefore old times you just didn't put anything too revolutionals ideas on your local MadModder and supply few flipant axtra lines to ticle the imagination. No - you would reveal secrets on to very few (quild members?). Secrets very well hiden has tendency to stay very well hidden and someday lost. Sometimes even with some extra effort some information disapears. Look any old thread here with pictures.

PekkaNF
lordedmond:

--- Quote from: PekkaNF on September 17, 2013, 08:20:44 AM ---One very little understood explanation of the knowledge in the ancient times is that sometimes even a bit esoteric knowledge was considered either dangerous or sacred - pretty dangerous/volatile stuff anyways. Therefore old times you just didn't put anything too revolutionals ideas on your local MadModder and supply few flipant axtra lines to ticle the imagination. No - you would reveal secrets on to very few (quild members?). Secrets very well hiden has tendency to stay very well hidden and someday lost. Sometimes even with some extra effort some information disapears. Look any old thread here with pictures.

PekkaNF

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to true  :ddb:

Stuart
DavidA:
PekkaNF,

You seem to be thinking more about the fourteenth - fifteenth century.  Remember that this was supposed to be around two thousand years ago. It is the total absence of related machines, even in a crude form,  that worries me. This device was far too sophisticated to just have been a one off. The Greeks could have had the maths,  but not the mechanical tech know-how.  Also, you don't produce something like that then just stop completely for fifteen hundred years.

Dave.
Brass_Machine:
PekkaNF:

--- Quote from: DavidA on September 17, 2013, 01:41:57 PM ---PekkaNF,

You seem to be thinking more about the fourteenth - fifteenth century.  Remember that this was supposed to be around two thousand years ago. It is the total absence of related machines, even in a crude form,  that worries me. This device was far too sophisticated to just have been a one off. The Greeks could have had the maths,  but not the mechanical tech know-how.  Also, you don't produce something like that then just stop completely for fifteen hundred years.

Dave.

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Yes. You are right on that one. I don't have any good idea of thinking that times. I was assuming somewhat analogous view, because to my knowledge human brain hasn't changed much in last 20000 years or so. People have been pretty smart and crafty very long times. I'm pretty sure that concept of time/calendar was very high on list. Followed closely location/navigation. Some cultures were pretty obsessed about it. Take Mayas. I know - different time -but pretty impressive by any standard.

However, only after widespread writing and paper use proliferation of new ideas sustained way was guaranteed. There are plenty of examples of same thing invented several ways and independantly.

This could explain some of it. Not all. I see very valid point too on "too odd" bit that does not "fit" into the puzzle.

Maybe one day there is a satisfactory explanation or maybe it's just a prank. :lol: How did they time it anyway?

PekkaNF
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