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| Pete.:
Well since astronomy was already a huge part of science of the day, and they already had non-geared devices such as astrolabes around at the same time, made form the same materials to the same level of craftsmanship. It would only need some person of high import and plenty of money to require an automatic device for predicting the important (in the day) events for it to be commissioned. The fact that it was found in a ship wreck suggests it was commissioned, unless the inventor went down with the ship, because who having built such a device would ever let it out of their possession? |
| Noitoen:
You want another example? Try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad_Battery |
| shipto:
--- Quote from: Noitoen on September 18, 2013, 03:22:22 PM ---You want another example? Try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad_Battery --- End quote --- I have seen that before wasnt it used for gold plating or something similar? edit: just read furthur down the page that the electroplating theory is not thought right now but I cant see why else they would want electricity. Maybe they liked the way it would tingle on their tonques :lol: |
| DavidA:
I watched an item on the tv about this so called baghdad battery, and if nothing else it reminded me how you have to be careful of presenters. The guy who was presenting the article had before him a selection of bits to replicate the battery (actually, cell) and what he produced was a simple unit with the two electrodes, the little earthenware jar and some wine vinegar as an electrolyte. So far, so good. Sticking the two electrodes in a lemon would hace produced the same result. But I digress. He then connected a digi VOM across the electrodes and, pointing the camera at the meter declared ' see, over two volt from this simple battery (sic)'. And indeed, the meter shower 247. This immediately rang alarm bells and my Bull S*** detector started ringing. Closer examination shower it was switched to the milliVolt range. So he was getting 0.247 Volt. Not 2.47 Volt as he was claiming. This seemed more reasonable. It is agree that the device, if it ever was used, would have been capable of some form of electroplating. But it would have been very slow. There is also the problem of why would anyone back in those days even have thought of the process. There is no history of things like that. Pekka, .. No - you would reveal secrets on to very few (quild members?). Secrets very well hiden has tendency to stay very well hidden and someday lost... Sorry mate, that explanation doesn't fly. If you have craftsmen capable of producing the mechanism, who can produce 354 tooth gears and fit lots of very finely produced bits together to make such a thing, then that knowledge doesn't appear over night nor does it just dissapear as quickly. Once the idea is out there, it stays out there. Ever thought, 'how did they drill all the small holes in the bronze ? or make the little pins and bushes ? If you remember, the man who made the replica (Micheal Wright ?) demonstrated the making of a gear. He marked-off the blank, Then said something like 'then the worker would have taken a file ....' Whoa there !! A file ? Where would a year zero Hellenic MadModder get a file from ? . No, the whole thing is too advanced. Dave. |
| Alan Haisley:
Anyone can see from pictures of the device that it is a control mechanism lost from a time machine. Who do you suppose the poor bloke was who got stranded back there? :zap: Alan |
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