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drmico60:
I lived in Sweden for a few years and, although I was surrounded by forests, the wood from a diy store was about twice the price in Sweden compared with buying in a diy store in the UK.
Mike
RossJarvis:
--- Quote from: PekkaNF on August 22, 2013, 04:14:57 AM ---Nooooooooooo :lol:
We sell the good stuff to Denmark and use the bad one.
if you need quarantees - you need to buy a toaster.
Pekka
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
I bet there's a lot of Danes, sitting around drinking their fizzy beer :beer: and telling everyone the wood they buy is rubbish too, then they will smile at each other knowingly and wink!
Damn clever these Danes :thumbup:
RossJarvis:
Morning all.
Well another day dawned, It rained last night and some damp seems to have got into the workshop;
Luckily I threw a tarp over the timber, so it shouldn’t be too wet, (well no wetter than it was when I got it from the wood-yard {when I say wood-yard, I actually mean a car-park down the local hardware store, not a proper wood-yard![when I say hardware store, I actually mean a branch of a well known money-removal chain with the initials TP, not a proper hardware store!]})
Anyway, where were we? Oh yes, looking back over the previous posts I noticed I was starting to sound like a teacher and getting into a lot of possibly pointless detail. Please chip in and tell me if I’m being boring or irrelevant, though try and be gentle about it.
Todays progress, a tenon and a lap-joint have been part completed (I’m sure it’s not called a lap -joint, surely a “lap joint” has subdued lighting and shiny poles everywhere!)
Firstly I clamped the post to my “workbench”, not having a good vice I used some clampy things. I discovered it best to have the long arms of the clamps going under the bench, not out where your legs are (ouch). Clamping as close to the bit you’re going to cut seems to be a good idea, but a bit tricky with long bits of wood if you want them upright.
So I had to lay this down a bit further than in the photo, I didn’t want it flat ‘cos I wanted it at an angle to see the marked lines at the top and the side. This meant I could line the tenon saw up;
Then I sawed at an angle till the hole (kerf?) had got down to the line marked for the shoulder of the tenon;
For this bit I was using a “rip cut” tenon saw, which seems to be working well “along the grain”. I bought this from a well known “Carpet Warehouse” (see if you can work out which shop I mean here!) a few years ago, like with most of my tools, it’s been lying around and attracting the “tin worm”.
I cut both sides (cheeks?) of the tenon and turned the wood round and came in from the other side, leaving a “v” shaped bit in the middle;
The last bit I did was cut “square” trying not to go past my marked “shoulder” line;
Nextly I cut square across the wood, using a hardpoint “tenon saw” which has a “cross cut”, this seems to be easier “across the grain”. I tried my best to get the lines and the blade vertical, and “eyed down” the blade to get it straight;
And “bam! Roberts your father’s brother”, “job done, one slightly wobbly sided tenon;
To be continued……
RossJarvis:
Now it was time for the “lap joint”. First I clamped the timber to the “workbench” (If you’re making a nice bit of furniture, make sure the bench is dry and the moss has been brushed off!).
Then I eyed up the cross-cut saw along the line, trying to remember to cut “inside the lines”, and then started sawing. I tried holding the saw with the handle lower than the blade, so that I could see when I got to the line. then I carefully got the saw level and cut down looking to see that I hadn’t gone too far on the other side. I then cut the other end of the joint and sawed across the middle too. This seems a good idea, so that the “chunks” I knock out with the chisel aren’t too big, and don’t take wood away wot should stay in the timber, innit! (sorry, lapsing into yoof speak there).
Once this was done I rolled the timber on its side, with the joint away from me, so that I could whack it with a big chisel and mallet. I did it this way round so that the chunks of wood would fly off into the beloved’s flower pots and not anything important I may have below the waist (I’m sure they’ll come in handy some day, just like all my other unused tools!). I had the bevel of the sharp end toward me in the hope that this will stop the chisel diving into the wood;
BISH, BASH, BOSH, A few applications of the hitting stick to the chisel and there’s chunks of wood in the dahlias and a right old mess in the hole! When I got nearer to the line, I turned the chisel round, so the flat edge was nearer the bottom of the hole and bashed a little bit softer. I only bashed out to about halfway through this side, I think next time I’ll stop a bit further from the line and come back to it later;
Then I flipped the wood over, bashed in with the chisel from the other side, leaving a little “hillock” in the middle. Lastly I turned the wood “flat” and shimmied in with the chisel by hand, using a “wiggling” motion, this seems to work better than forcing it or using the hitting stick;
As you can see from the piccie below, I’ve sawed down a bit too far and probably bashed out a bit too much wood, not sure if I need more saw cuts in the middle of the wood, or less bashing! (probably both). I was also a bit unnerved to see that I’d missed a mark, and thought I must have cut across the wood at an angle;
However checking with the square showed that I had cut across the wood reasonably well, meaning I’d drawn the line in the wrong place. Can’t have been squaring the square, square across the wood very well, had we then!;
The edges of the joint weren’t particularly vertical, but hopefully this’ll all come out in the wash, when I fit the joint and re-apply the sharp cutty thing (if that’s not mixing too many metaphors, synonyms, whatever!);
“Et Viola” (as the musicians say in France!), after much procrastination we have a part finished post.
I’m going to cut one part of each joint on all the timbers first and then offer each one up to it’s opposite number before doing the next lot. Hopefully this’ll help me bodge all my mistakes into some semblance of “carpentry”.
Ooer, look, it’s lunch time already and all I’ve done is start cutting two joints, I better get on and stop blathering to you and get them joints done. (Lunch time! MMMMMMM, where’s that frying pan gone?)
RossJarvis:
--- Quote from: drmico60 on August 22, 2013, 05:12:25 AM ---I lived in Sweden for a few years and, although I was surrounded by forests, the wood from a diy store was about twice the price in Sweden compared with buying in a diy store in the UK.
Mike
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Never been to Sweden, though I have been through it on the way to Norway. In Norway everything was three times the price it is in the UK, it even makes Switzerland seem cheap :clap:
What were you doing in Sweden? A mate of mine lived there for a while doing some arty stuff, he appears to have found a wife there. Did you get one of those too? :thumbup:
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