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RossJarvis:
Hello people

I have just joined this site and am planning to build a timber framed log store for the lady next door.  This is Mark 1 which I made for our house;





I need to rethink the front row of shingles to make them more robust and try to improve the quality of the joints.  She'd also like it to be wider so I'm going to make two bays instead of one (or at least fake it with a middle post).

These are my plans, which should be good enough to make a cutting list and get the job done;



If anyone can see any flaws or omissions please tell me.

I'm thinking of making all the joints in traditional British Timber frame style, pegged with wooden dowel.  It'll be made of pressure treated pine with the odd screw maybe and nails, but no glue.  I'm yet to think about chopping all the mortices by hand or possibly using a bench mortiser.  There's also the option of using a brace and bit or Mr Makita.  I'm in two minds whether to go the full hog and do everything with mandraulics or give in to modernity and use the mighty electron!

PekkaNF:
Hello,

Looks like a nice plan. I like timber frame construction.

Couple of toughts:
* That amount of wood would be consumed here in a week or less when it's cold. Is that secondary storage or just for entertainment?
* I would make legs longer, we get here almost a meter of snow, last ones on the spring would be soggy if they were that close to ground.
* if you use screws with treated timber, make sure the screws are compatible, othervice they will corrode in in few years. I don't see they need to use treated timber in this structure on anywhere else than base and even that should be off the ground ( I see you have done that with a brik). Put a tarfelt or such between block and wood, it will slow rotting. For base I would use something less porous material than a brik or a building block, natural stone or concrete is better.
* Here people put some sort side walls and some shutters to prevent snow from gluing it solid during the winter. They are removable and not that solid, because air must circulate to dry the wood.

We tend to make them whole lot more utilitarian, I respect your effort to make it more designed with the house.

Pekka

RossJarvis:
Pekka, thank you for your advice.

Yes, that's about a weeks worth of wood.  We don't have much room to store wood and if anything it is more of an "entertainment" than a serious log store.  My wife likes us to use wood for environmental reasons, I prefer coal because I'm the one who has to bring in the fuel, lay the fire, light it, keep it stoked and clean out the grate!  When it gets cold we burn the wood for the first week and then I fill the store with bags of coal!

The lady next door has "seasoned" logs delivered in bags every week or so and likes to have stuff that looks nice. 

Here in the south of England we get snow for about a week a year and no more than 10cm.  The one I have made is not treated timber and seems okay, We have a lot of rain and it is good for keeping the wood dry without sides or shutters. 

I was thinking to use galvanised nails instead of screws and better check to see they are compatible. 

The main reason I actually want to make it is to practice making mortice and tenon joints in a local house building style from about 300 - 800 years ago. I would rather use oak but in England all timber is very expensive and seems to be the stuff that no-one else wants!

chipenter:
If you want traditional I would take my cutting list to a the New Forest , and find a charcoal burner or forester and ask for some green Chestnut , square it with a draw knife and split it with wedges .


Jeff

RossJarvis:

--- Quote from: chipenter on August 19, 2013, 02:06:45 AM ---If you want traditional I would take my cutting list to a the New Forest , and find a charcoal burner or forester and ask for some green Chestnut , square it with a draw knife and split it with wedges .


Jeff

--- End quote ---
  Ah, that's next weeks project  :bugeye: the week after that, I'll be taking a felling axe into the wood across the road, tumble a few oak and then convert them to beams with the side axe. Then I'll get out the saw, slick and callipers and by the end of the week I expect to have an entire workshop up and PeteW can come round to install three phase :thumbup:

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