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RossJarvis:
Well then, looks like the time and motion’s worked. Now have two frames in the “workshop”;
Took a number of shortcuts and I think I’m getting some idea about tenons and stuff. First frame took 6 days, this one 1 day.
The b****y apprentice got back from the Co-op; six sausage rolls and a packet of cheese in the bag, no blinking hob-nobs. “Sold out innit!” says he through a mouthful of crumbs!!!!
RossJarvis:
Mornin’ all. Anyone out there? Remember to say hello every now an’ again, it’s a bit lonely out in t’ workshop, and the apprentice don’t talk much.
This morning I thought it about time to do something to hold the frames together, so “ZZd ZZe ZZD ZZe, Ouch, B****r” and before you knew it I’d made these;
…..And had some old scrap left over;
The idea is to have some wood under the floor (joists?) to hold the floor down, plus some wood up the sides (tie beams?) to hold the back to the front. If you look carefully at the picture above, you can see I’ve carefully cut some tenons vertical and some horizontal, near did me back in lying on the floor cutting the horizontal ones!
I clamped the timbers together in fours, (cheers AndyT!) and marked them out together in the hope they’d all be the same length after attacking with a saw. I put an arrow on to help me remember which way round they were and which face was out, or up (mind you I’m blowed if I can remember which way it’s supposed to point now, I’ll have to revert to writing instructions to me’sen);
Then I tried cutting four tenon shoulders together;
Realised the little saw wasn’t up to it so got a bigger saw;
Then realised it really was going to go t**s up at sometime, so decided to cut the rest one at a time. Not sure about this modern industrialised assembly line lark, don’t think it’ll catch on. Then the apprentice popped out for a nose around, decided to “pressure-treat” the wood pile and you just won’t believe what he did on the green carpet at the end of the workshop!!!
Took about three hours of hard tea-break to do that little lot! I’ve got even more efficient, one cup of tea lasts about two beams now.
“Ladies and Gentlemen, Welcome to the Astoria, before the main feature we will have a quick word from our sponsors………Gladys, why are you running around shouting “Minorcas, Minorcas” Minorca is singular, it’s Balearic which is plural. Oh I see. Oi you lot in the back row, I told you last week….”
If you’re interested in timber-framing the old fashioned way, I did a course at the Weald and Downland museum, it weren’t cheap for five days, but was a brilliant time. There were blokes of all different ages and backgrounds (ladies are welcome too!) and it was great working together and getting to know each other, as well as learning how to hurt yourself on a b****y great chisel or two. I don’t know if these courses are still running, but ours was led by a chappie called Joe Thompson, you couldn’t hope to meet a nicer chap. (as I’ve said before, I’m not affiliated to or paid for these plugs, but I am still open to any offers).
“We will now be starting tonight’s main feature please take your seats…..I meant sit down! not take the flippin’ things out the fire exit….”
dsquire:
Ross
Just so you don't think nobody is paying any attention I'll chip in from the front row. Sorry about trying to nick that chair but I was talking with the apprentice. We both figured with your skills you could knock up a replacement with little trouble so it wouldn't be a big deal. He even offered to hold the door for me. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'll be back to see how you get on with the next bit. :D :D
Cheers :beer:
Don
RossJarvis:
It’s approaching evening so I’ve downed tools ready for the weekend. Friday is steak chips and a glass of wine night. After this week’s work I think I’ll make that two glasses!
Where was we, oh yes, tenoning (is that a word?). My evening class teacher said “let the saw do the work, don’t force it”, so I sat there for ages, and the b****y saw did nowt, just like the apprentice. So I had to get up and do the work myself! I’ve got one side of my body like Popeye now and the other like Olive Oyle.
Meanwhile, back on topic I was going to start marking out the mortices for the joists and tie beams. So I lined the two frames up to see which way round they ought to be. The first shot shows where the feet are together but everything else is on the p*** (at an angle);
….the next shows both frames matching near perfick like;
…obviously that was all intended and “ahem!” we need not worry about the whole thing leaning slightly to one side. It’s well within spec! Once both frames were levelled and matched together, I marked out the positions of the mortices. These were set about an inch from nearby mortices or tenons, to leave some strength in the wood;
…and to make sure I didn’t b****r it up next time, I marked the rear frame to know which way round it ought to go;
I find writing instructions all over the wood is better than doing it on paper, it’s generally harder to lose the wood than paper! I also marked the side of the line I needed to mark the mortices and which side of the timber needed the hole cut in it;
This was ‘cos the faces for the mortices were the ones clamped together. I then marked the mortices out and found an old bit of tenon waste was handy to mark the width out with;
Although, this being carcassing, no two bits of wood are the same thickness! BRRR WHIZZ WOOF OUCH and here we are, one end of the wood fitted to the other bits of wood. There is an issue about the other ends but we’ll leave that for now shall we.;
I could now do the braces for the floor. These could have been done at 45 degrees like the others, but me back were killing me so I just bunged ‘em in any old how. No-one’s going to care, they’re going to be boarded over anyway!
I’m sure, as long as the joist is at 90(ish) degrees, we’ll all be happy. BANG, CHOP, WHIRR, TWEET, OUCH and;
…the pile of sticks is starting to look like something at last here’s it with the other frame dumped on top;
I’m quite pleased with that, particularly the floor;
…even though it’s pretending to be a stud wall at the mo. Mind you, last time I was pleased with something, it broke! We’ll have to see what the morrow brings.
TTFN
RossJarvis:
--- Quote from: dsquire on August 30, 2013, 10:58:40 AM ---Ross
Just so you don't think nobody is paying any attention I'll chip in from the front row. Sorry about trying to nick that chair but I was talking with the apprentice. We both figured with your skills you could knock up a replacement with little trouble so it wouldn't be a big deal. He even offered to hold the door for me. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'll be back to see how you get on with the next bit. :D :D
Cheers :beer:
Don
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Cheers Don :beer:, it's great to know someone's out there :thumbup: (hope I didn't offend with the "Canadian Oil" line :Doh:
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