Cheers John ,
funny enough I never really liked wood either lol, it just seemed that quite a few things I wanted or needed to make had to have some wood involved in the project and since then its grew on me

............. I have branched out

, turned a new leaf

and it dosent go against the grain now

I think I have got to the root of it

Some good things about wood ,
It never has to be exact size thou's etc , its much faster to make something, if you make a complete arse of the job it still burns lovely.......oh aye ..... and it grows on trees

so you can often get it for nowt
Anyway nowt wrong with your rammer or pattern

John so I am sure you could make similar stuff if you need to, just give me a shout if I Can help with advice or anything

Cheers Mick.