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Is this Die made improperly?
sbwhart:
Hi Scot
Here a photo of my home made die holders for the lathe with a variation for holding taps. The small one uses a one peace morse taper and guide made from a blank morse taper baught at trade, the soft end was drilled and tapped and a piece of bar screwed, and the diameter turned for a nice fit in the die holder. You can bore the die holder at each end to take different dies, the larger one just has a piece of bar that you grip in the chuck.
You can buy them from trade but they are good turning exercises to get you to develop your skills and you end up with a usfull tool that will improve your work. :clap:
When I started my apprentiship we spent 12 months in the traing shop under apprentice masters where we made a set of tools, I,ve still got many of my tools there a bit beat up :hammer: as I've used them regularly.
Cheers :wave:
Stew
bogstandard:
Spin,
As everyone says, those tap and die sets are no use for anything, you can't even recycle them into anything else. I was given a set of the metric ones, and the only reason I keep them is to show people how bad they really are.
If you search around for a professional tap and die maker, you will find that you can buy very cheaply from them, even cheaper than normal ME suppliers.
A normal smallish sized HSS die is about £9 in the UK, by using a manufacturer, I can buy a HQS (better than HSS) die for £6, and if I buy 5 off, that drops to £2-80p each. Also, you will find that because they supply to industry, they process the order straight away, and you normally get them next day.
In the UK this is who I use. But you are better if you phone or email as the web ordering service doesn't factor in the discount rate.
http://www.tapdie.com/index.html
My die and tapping setup is very similar to Stew's, and I can usually knock up a new die holder in less than an hour.
Where I differ is that I do all my work under power (Ralph was a bit astonished when I showed him the process). As I am normally doing a lot of the same items, and it would take me forever if I did them all by hand.
John
sbwhart:
I've watched John use a die under power never had the B***s to try it myselve :bugeye:
Cheers
:wave:
Stew
rleete:
--- Quote from: sbwhart on January 30, 2009, 04:44:40 AM ---You can buy them from trade...
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I'm sure it's just a matter of terminology, but I'm not sure I understand. Would this be the same as "buying retail" in the US?
You're just saying make them vs. buy them?
Divided he ad:
--- Quote --- (Ralph was a bit astonished when I showed him the process).
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:lol: Very true :lol:
I was.... "but how?... What?..... Why??" And John was just.... "It's easy look...." :coffee:
Nice to have a machine that changes speed quick to aid the process.... Sometimes I think I should have gone for the 'tweekable' DC motor version? .... Ahh well, Mine hasn't held me back much :)
Scott,
I know I've already chatted with you over this (haddn't seen the pic's though!!) but as pretty much said by Darren and Stew.... There is no substitute for a quality tool! I would have to agree with the buy as you need advise.... I've never needed either a M7 or M9 tap or die yet!!
Admittedly, if your like me you will have to wait a few weeks even months between purchases..... Sadly other bills come first :(
Making the holder should be a good topic for you? (and me.... I can take notes) :thumbup:
Ralph.
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