Thanks Guys, really appreciate it,
On Rogs advice I ran into the workshop and got going with a bit of scrap steel.
Alas it didn't work out too well. It sorta worked, but not good enough. I did a strip on the shaper but that darn vice just isn't positive enough and the parallels are out too much.
Why the shaper, cos it's new and I'm playing with it. Besides, you'd all make them on a mill, so I thought I'd be different and make a thread on it with pic's.
I need to look for a vice, a good un, till then I might have to resort to the mill. See how I feel tomorrow.
John, bogs John, perhaps I'd better just call you bogs just to clarify.
You have a vertex on your mill I believe, do you like it, would you recommend it?
Second hand ones don't seem to be much cheaper and besides I suppose they get worn and abused as well?