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MrFluffy

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Hello from France
« on: June 10, 2010, 04:21:59 PM »
Hi, Im Phil from France, although originally I was one of those UK peeps, about 10 years back I joined the 1 in 10 brits who moved away perm attracted away from a london commuting existence by a very rural life in Indre in the green bit in the middle of France and lots of old barns with 3 phase. Currently in the middle of a massive barn conversion project and doing it all myself so not so much time to tinker with machinery as Id like at the moment...
Ill post some pics in the projects bit save this turning overlong :D

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Re: Hello from France
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2010, 05:12:16 PM »
Hi Phil from France  :wave: Welcome to the forum.

Post up pics of your conversion as you can, we'd all love to see them.



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Re: Hello from France
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2010, 06:48:24 PM »
MrFluffy

Welcome to MadModder. I see that you are making yourself right at home here and that is good. If you have any questions ask away as there is usually someone around to answer or at least give you there opinion. I hope that you enjoy yourself on the forum and look forward to hearing more from you as you have the time.  :ddb: :ddb:

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Re: Hello from France
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2010, 07:00:59 PM »
Hello Phil, by your description it seems you have a farm. Would that be the "excuse" for having 3 phase? Iīm in Portugal, we also have a farm (sort of), and that was our excuse for getting 3 phase. Usually you canīt get it for a "normal" house here.
Welcome, good luck with the barn conversion, I assume itīs for a workshop (at least a part of it). Post many pictures!
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Re: Hello from France
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2010, 07:15:11 PM »
Ill post the house ones in here, since its more concrete and hitting lumps of stone with big hammers than actual precision lovelyness..

We seen this and fell in love with the location, it was a old machinery shed and cow barn with no services or anything. But just knock down the new block section with the tin roof and build a interior right? I work so we were going to take a mortgage out and get a specialist renovation company in to do it :-


Did some doodling and got the change of use and planning approved on them and a quote for the works we could afford , so we put our 10% deposit down which here is legally binding.


If only it was this easy to do in reality...


Then the banking world fell apart and the bank refused the provisionally approved mortgage even though we had our other house as outright collateral. So stupidly I decided to do it all myself. The first 6 months alone were spent demolishing the cow troughs and other internal fittings, removing some too low celings and making some piercings and casting in lintels and formwork for internal doorways in the huge dirt and stone walls downstairs.



building of the internal walls with foundations etc to tie it all in a bit better and add a bit of strength to carry upstairs on.


Some reinforced concrete pillars to carry the upstairs carrier beams which sit under the floor joists.


Serious underpinning under the end wall after excavation. Lots of steel boxwork running right under the original walls as we found no foundations in that section when doing sample digs. The edge of the visqueen is jutting over the interior face of the poured kerb...


Slurm lorry arrives with a lot of concrete and after much grunting, I madly run round with the float later on to do a diy polished floor, only to discover a 120m2 floor has already gone off at one end while your floating the other on your lonesome...


Rapid rail studwork with 200mm insulation between it and the wall (plus somewhere easy to hide all the services in  :thumbup:)...


Some novel materials handling solutions...


Then we decide the furnace has to go in the house, all half a tonne of it.
Through a doorway...


Id promised my long suffering wife a kitchen to cook christmas dinner in. And by some miracle last xmas managed to deliver on that promise (a year or so late)


Managed to finish the whole downstairs more or less, although we were heating with electric spaceheaters till Id got the heating commisioned properly in jan...

Its a HS Tarm multifuel oil/wood (and soon to be solar too) 50Kw furnace. A little OTT for the size of house so plans are to run a extra loop out and underfloor heat the workshops too, just to keep it ticking over  :thumbup:


What my wife termed my "man cave", although not after I pointed out the modern meaning of the term. Yes that is a space invader tiled into the floor  because Im a old computer hardware and consoles fiend too :beer:




That glowy thing in the foreground is a cocktail cabinet arcade machine, although its a 80's machine its a taiwanese bootleg so Im in the process of changing the innards for a mame based jamma xin1 for all the arcade fiends out there...


Theres also some fruit machines and a jamma arcade cabinet waiting for me to do a jukebox/mame/mythtv conversion on it. Got the parts but no time.

Finally some steel work, they wanted nigh on 800 quid for a celing bracket for the project. Some mig and box section later...


Im now on another mission, Ive promised my wife that we'll have two bedrooms upstairs finished in the circular staircase section so we can move in proper and get rid of the mobile home in the barn. So thats where Im at. Poured some structural pillars for the upstairs joist carriers to sit atop and currently knocking lumps out the front wall cutting window holes in. Then Ive been promised that I can have a break and do my workshops before finishing the other 2/3rds of upstairs...

Sorry about some of the pic sizes, I didnt realize they were that big when I linked them, I can snip them down a bit if they arent auto resizing for people?


« Last Edit: June 10, 2010, 07:21:37 PM by MrFluffy »

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Re: Hello from France
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2010, 07:30:07 PM »
Hello Phil, by your description it seems you have a farm. Would that be the "excuse" for having 3 phase? Iīm in Portugal, we also have a farm (sort of), and that was our excuse for getting 3 phase. Usually you canīt get it for a "normal" house here.
Welcome, good luck with the barn conversion, I assume itīs for a workshop (at least a part of it). Post many pictures!
 :wave:

Actually round here pretty much all the older houses are on 380v three phase. The electricity board are trying to wean everyone off it because of the risk of a cross phase shock but lots of people have stuff that draw's from all 3 phases. It is a farming community so there is a lot of triphase equipment about.

The supply here is current limited to whatever you pay for, we're on 30amp/phase, and if we exceed that the breaker at the entrance to our property throws out but we pay a slightly higher tarrif than if we were on 90amp monophase.
At the moment we're on a 3phase temporary supply with our own supply box on their supply pole then we're responsible thereon in, which is intended for building and renovation use. They wont give us the final supply until we've finished the house completely and have a certificate that the install comply's to the french standards.
Lots of the funkier stuff I want to do with the house around home automation (another habit...) has to wait till the house has passed inspection too, so we have lots of dark wiring, cat6 cables going into empty terminations in pattress boxes etc.

Im just happy im not having to pay Ģ2000 for it to be strung from the local pole like I had to back in the uk ;)

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Re: Hello from France
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2010, 08:43:36 PM »
Hi  :wave:

welcome to the collective :borg:

That barn/house is coming along nicely! Love the space invader on the floor in the game room.

posted in your other threads!

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Re: Hello from France
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2010, 06:46:54 PM »
Hi Phil,
OK about the electricity there. You sure have taken on an enormous job with the barn, but it seems to be getting on real fine. All the back-breaking and absolutely necessary things already done. A lot to do still, to be sure, but the finish line is already in sight  :)

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BTW, whatīs "Pičce1, 23.74 m2"? My french is very limited, not to say non-existent...
 
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Re: Hello from France
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2010, 09:39:12 AM »
Very cool project.

How many of the locals have surrendered to you so far?

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Re: Hello from France
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2010, 09:28:16 AM »
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BTW, whatīs "Pičce1, 23.74 m2"? My french is very limited, not to say non-existent...
 
Bedroom 1 with the area in square meters.

My wife's family lives not too far away, near Loches.

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Re: Hello from France
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2010, 04:18:05 PM »
Sorry for the slow response, been dragged away on impromptu holiday in the motorhome by my wife who deemed I needed a break. Came back with a newly made list of snags to fix on that too  :hammer:

Cidrontmg: As correctly pointed out Its just piece1, meaning bit1 or similar. I think its actually the kitchen to be but when we was playing round with the door opening to the hall we managed to separate part of the kitchen from that main square so the cad package renamed it as a new room... It does look a lot like bedroom one, but this shows both floors with one floor imposed onto the other.
Yes all units in meters here, these are the plans that got stamped by both the architect and the planning office and neither of them spotted that piece1  :clap:

Not sure all the really backbreaking bit is all done yet :) Im resting now after finishing tonights session with the brick hammer and chisel opening up one of the bedroom window apertures. Its been easy so far just crack the outer render off and work out the stones by loosening the mud between with a pinch bar but it seems someone rebuilt this particular wall with a really strong modern cement based mortar between the stone so fighting each stone out one by one.

KVOM: Loches isnt far your right, probably about two hours or so from here driving. Just a little bit nearer civilization than us :)

Brass_Machine: theres more to come yet with some huge vinyl cut invader graphics for the walls and the upright arcade cabinet and a pin table and I'm slowly hunting down rare and weird consoles and computers from the 70/80's eras at the right prices for it. But it can come together as and when now. Its already my favourite room. I have some really advanced ideas for homebrew automation this time round but I have to hold off till its passed electrical sign off.

Dabirdguy: none of them have surrendered. Theyre all really cool as it goes. The immediate ones told us they were fine with us working till whatever hour we feel like and to ignore the rules on late/sunday working, and the rest are mostly farmers who have some really nice toys and are pleasant people to deal with. I know where 2 minutes away theres a telehandler that they will come round with straight away if I ask, and another neighbour ran his flail over the garden before we got the pony tractors ourselves and it had gone properly wild. Last summer I was straightening bits of combine in the hydraulic press mid harvest after it hit something and I lifted someone else's cow up with my little hydraulic hoist so they could work its hip back in one day so its not all one way traffic. Its just a rural practical area, the kind of place you go the supermarket when it snows and see a tractor coming out with the weeks shopping in the front bucket and the family in the cab. And it suits me and my love of homebrew modding and tinkering and machinery right down to the ground :)

Anyway, my arms recovered from feeling like spaghetti crossed with jello now, so best get back to it for now :) Thanks for all the welcoming words people :)



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Re: Hello from France
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2010, 08:22:58 AM »
Sounds like you've found a great place to live. :thumbup: