Hi Darren, thanks for sending me to see your shaper, it's a beaut, nice size and looks really good. My little Atlas would look like a puppy beside it, practically put the whole thing in the vise. It's funny, a shaper isn't much good without a good vise, but an awful lot of them seem to get separated from their vises before someone who doesn't even know what it is, sells it. A friend, long retired, was about to send off an old shaper he got and has stored since I was in high school, to the scrap yard, but gave it to me when he found out I was interested. It's from about the 1880's, but everything seems pretty tight, and although its covered with rust on the outside, everything is free, and once opened up a bit, very litttle of any of the ways are rusted other than a bit of surface rust. It's a 12 inch stroke, and I will hopefully rebuild it, getting it torn down this summer, and going back together next winter. The Atlas works great, and does nice work for a seven inch, but that twelve inch would be nice to have for the rough stuff. You can set the tool to cut just under the slag, and it peels off the nastiness just like peeling the skin off an orange or a banana. I have seen half a dozen huge ones go to the scrap yard only because they were old, dirty, and in the way, nothing wrong with them, just no one who wanted them, and had something to carry them away with. Makes a grown man cry sometimes. mad jack