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Darren:
Biggest problem we have in this area is language ... Before I go on I'm not pro or anti Welsh language.... makes no odds to me I understand both and have little need for either employment wise.

But we currently have a real problem, it's been bad for decades but now it's coming to a head. Then local bods have been pushing the Welsh language so hard that now school education is only done in the medium of Welsh.

Our eldest started collage this summer and is now faced with being asked to leave because her English is so poor they don't think she will be able to complete the coarse with a high enough grade. I understand she's not alone here and it's becoming a big issue.

She's only taking a low level interim coarse, nothing high level at all. Class size has been reduced by one third in the first half term already.


And people blame education ... too right IMHO

One in four teachers in secondary education have had assault cases filed, tells you something....

I say bring back the cane and make the buggers learn something ... it's all gone too far, maybe very much too far to recover from.

bogstandard:
You only have to look at the quality of the graduates coming out of universities.

Most can't even write correctly, and without a calculator they are absolutely lost. Whatever happened to the three R's.

I couldn't believe the report that my grandson had from his school. Almost every teacher had spelling mistakes, bad grammar and appauling punctuation in their handwritten (very bad handwriting as well) reports. How can they teach children, when they have the same basic standards of education I was at when I was 12 or 13.

I have worked with university engineering graduates who, if they went to pick their noses, I would dread to think where their finger would eventually end up. They hadn't a clue. But they were given preference over a 50 odd year old highly skilled man, who could do their job backwards without even breaking into a sweat, and who had hardly any formal qualifications, except for a good engineering background.

Until they get rid of all the do gooders and mamby pamby a**eholes who "think" they are doing good for the modern day kids, we don't stand a chance.

All the children need is some good parental and state discipline, and a GOOD education, by people who can TEACH, not by people who think they can.

Maybe then, we would have the basic building blocks for this country to become good again.

But I doubt it very much if it would ever happen. There is just too much money waste and worship going on.

People are not judged nowadays by their qualities and beliefs, but by how much money they have now, or expected to have in the future.


Rant over


Bogs

raynerd:
I wanted to team up (cross-curricular link) with Technology to have a small group of Resistant Material students build a simple engine, either a wobbler or a mccabe runner. I teach Chemistry so my interest was purely due to my interests as a hobby, it took me a few days pestering to a get the technology teacher onboard and the technology technician being a ex-tool maker was also really up for it. He went to ask the head of technology and you know what stopped the show - health and safety! And that is health and safety of the kids, not due to their lack of teaching experience.
They have a really nice metal lathe, they have a huge Ajax mill and ... you got it! - Kids can`t use either because of health and safety. The mill is totally out of bounds and is now unplugged and the lathe is used only for very very simple teacher demonstartions. Need I say more .....

Chris

John - don`t be too quick to lump teachers together in one pot. There are some bad ones but there are many very good ones; it is hard to educate students with no morals, motivation or respect. I`m lucky, my school is great but I know a number of friends who feel sick driving in to work each morning. 

CrewCab:
I have great difficulty finding fault with any of the above, I do agree that to get any improvement it must start with education but Bogs is right I too have worked with university graduates that I wouldn't pay in washers, but they get precedence over skilled personnel, sad reflection on society .......... plus people/governments need to realise the need for these vanishing skills ................  if everyone eventually works in a call centre what's left  :bugeye:

Darren, I know I said above that education is the key and I do believe that, but teaching only in Welsh just takes the pi$$, sorry no offence but it's going to end up costing a lot of kids an education, the do-gooders ain't gonna stump up and put that right are they, either in Welsh or English.

Rant mode <off>

Have a nice day guys

CC

CrewCab:

--- Quote from: craynerd on October 26, 2009, 04:12:20 PM ---it is hard to educate students with no morals, motivation or respect. I'm lucky, my school is great but I know a number of friends who feel sick driving in to work each morning. 
--- End quote ---

A good perspective Chris 

CC

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