Debate.... Quite humourously John you've started one that will get a great deal of replies ( I know that was probably the idea, and yes I had to put my oar in too

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I just like this place a lot..... It's fun.
This thread has now taken on a life of it's own..... As they always do!

Now then, that said.....
Hitandmissman,
since you will no doubt see this.....I'll ask you, Please don't be shy.
If you want to see the first effort I hit HMEM with and thought I'd get laughed at then here it is.... (just look at the way I was beating the thing half to death trying to get a runner! A lot of members here might not have seen this

) I got a few positive lines of text from some and a lot of help from others relating to geometry and mass of the flywheel etc.
I understand the feelings involved in posting your work. If the replies had gone badly then I suspect I'd have still tried and would not have given up on engines or showing them. I might just have not had the same drive?
As it was it led to the completion of two other engine related builds that I am very proud of (even if there is a wobble.... I need to concentrate on workholding etc!)
Point being... There are no people here that will knock you down (except maybe in safety issues), most will help till they can type no more.
Why? Because we like to see others work doing what it should or looking good or getting better, because the reply usually comes with an obvious smile in the post.
This makes us feel better too (well it does me)

I'm going to try and hit the 'shop tonight..... I have a backlog to get upto date on and the weather sucks..... Perfect for a 'shop evening!

Ralph. (I started this post miles before Bog's and Eric posted theirs...... I think I'm just slow??

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Just seen this.............
Well here's my "bent nail in a piece of wood", what did I do wrong?
I think there is something about driving nails into knots.... Dunno much about the black art of "wood"