Wilson's Workshop Waffle

[RobWilson]

Evening Chaps 


A wee bit more done today, welded up the frame and added the casters.





Then got distracted    I blame Pete 

Looking forward to seeing how you stop the machine going walkabout, and how you put up with the noise.
Pete

Well, I just had to see how load the phase converter will be.

Workshop at rest, nowt running. Phase converter power is on.



Phase converter running no load.



See that's not loud to my ears, maybe I am going deaf  , so I rigged up an extension lead and powered up one of the mills 5hp spindle motor plus coolant and power feed motors
running, noise levels stopped about the same and no movement of the phase converter .


Rob

[hermetic]

 If it gets to noisy you can always shove it outside on a fine day! Nice job mate, makes me realise how blessed I am to have 3 phase in. Mind you, it took a right dust up with the old man before he would stump up his half of it! (not) Happy days!
Phil

[tom osselton]

I use a samsung tablet and when the pics are too big you can touch the screen and press view picture / save pic ect.

[Pete W.]

Please be gentle with me if this is a silly question:             

When you make a welded frame of hollow section and with totally closed corners, do you have to drill a hole somewhere to let the section 'breathe' while the weld pool is still liquid? 

[Spurry]

Looking good Rob. I guess one of my problems is that it is so quiet here.
If the mill itself is running, the noise from the inverter is not noticeable, BUT unfortunately I have to have the inverter operating to generate the 110v for the DRO.
If the DRO is off, then nothing can be moved or else the readings are thrown out. It's not quite so bad, now the unit is on the other side of a 6" wall, but still obtrusive enough.
My unit only sits on its original rubber pads, so I have to re-visit it every so often to put it back where it should be. 
Pete

[RobWilson]

Please be gentle with me if this is a silly question:             

When you make a welded frame of hollow section and with totally closed corners, do you have to drill a hole somewhere to let the section 'breathe' while the weld pool is still liquid?

Hi Pete,

 It is not a real concern, the MIG welding pool freezes fairly rapidly. 



Rob 

[Pete W.]

Please be gentle with me if this is a silly question:             

When you make a welded frame of hollow section and with totally closed corners, do you have to drill a hole somewhere to let the section 'breathe' while the weld pool is still liquid?

Hi Pete,

 It is not a real concern, the MIG welding pool freezes fairly rapidly. 



Rob

Cheers, Rob, thank you.                   

[RobWilson]

Evening Chaps,


                   A wee update, slapped a couple of coats of rattle can black paint on the frame, oh! and added a 50mm upstand.



                 Decided to use two of the supplied rubber feet as buffers.   




           And added a plywood top that would make  Mr. Chippendale  turn in his grave 





Cheers Lads.   

[krv3000]

well dun rob

[Joe d]

Looks good, Rob

Do you have somewhere to park it out of the way near one of the walls?

Joe

[SwarfnStuff]

Yup good stuff,

      That last pic shows the correct test procedure for any new bench top Rob.  I reckon the cuppa was well earned. I always like your posts.

John B

[Will_D]

  I nipped across to Ikea today and picked up a Billy phase converter doodad, the kit.

I know this is a daft question, Rob, but what did you get in Ikea?

I searched there site for "Billy phase converter dooda"

Ok I didn't

[Spurry]

Just make sure there is no mug on top when you switch it on...
Pete

[awemawson]

Nice trolley Rob, and made to your usual stout high quality 

I am a little puzzled though why you need it. I'd have thought tucking it away somewhere in a dark corner, and putting a three phase socket adjacent to each machine would have been for more ergonomic than trundling the tea trolley about, particularly when alternating between (say) the lathe and milling machine in a typical machining session 

When I was running off a Transwave rotary converter at my last shop I ran a 'three phase ring main' round the room with multiple sockets, and power to the converter was run through the same contactor that operated my 'Emergency Stop' circuit on the 13a sockets. This meant when I'd finished for the day, I just had to press the red button by the exit when I went in for the night knowing everything was isolated except the lighting circuit.

[RobWilson]

I am a little puzzled though why you need it. I'd have thought tucking it away somewhere in a dark corner, and putting a three phase socket adjacent to each machine would have been for more ergonomic than trundling the tea trolley about, particularly when alternating between (say) the lathe and milling machine in a typical machining session 

Hi Andrew,


  You do have me puzzled  ,   really, you thought I was actually going to move the phase converter to each machine!  where did I give that impression?



HINT





Why do I bother 


Rob

[awemawson]

I probably read that post on my iPad and the big picture fell off the edge of the screen 

[mexican jon]

Hi Andrew,
You do have me puzzled  ,   really, you thought I was actually going to move the phase converter to each machine! where did I give that impression?

Rob

                           
When you installed wheels on it

[RobWilson]

   OK Andrew,


This thing has to go somewhere if it just sits on the floor that's  700mm x 700mm of floor space used up, put a frame around it and add a top, I get 700mm x 700mm of usable storage space back, while I am on its no hardship to just add four casters, this makes moving the thing allot easier and the rubber wheels will damp any vibration. 

I thought it was obvious     

Rob

[Biggles]

Nice piece of work Rob, in my case I have just ordered some angle for a gallows frame on the wall. Unlike your setup I am still with Andrew’s idea of a ring main. That converter is a heavy beast I can confirm. If you have it on the ground then it will need moving at some stage to find the odd screw you dropped as they will always go behind something you can’t move. 

[RobWilson]

                          And there we go,



It fits, I wonder how that happened, It fits in what would otherwise have been dead space, as I could hardly have the lathe hard up to the door, as is I have 1500mm through the spindle from the front of the chuck jaws.

I also have access to the dead space at the rear of the lathe, somewhere to store my engine hoist, we don't all have two barns to have kit ideally placed, I just have to pi$$ with the cock I have.



And look, somewhere to pile crap on.




  Rob

[awemawson]

Hey Rob, that's a brilliant dark corner to keep it - how lucky it just fits AND there's a handy power point 



( just in case you wondered  )

[RobWilson]

in my case I have just ordered some angle for a gallows frame on the wall. Unlike your setup I am still with Andrew’s idea of a ring main.

Remember to take a few photos Biggles     , we likes photos we do 


Rob

[BillTodd]

Watch out for swarf finding its way down the spindle and dropping out down towards your RPC motor Rob.

Might want to bung it up or direct it away to some where safer.

Bill

[RobWilson]

Watch out for swarf finding its way down the spindle and dropping out down towards your RPC motor Rob.

Might want to bung it up or direct it away to some where safer.

Bill

Was planning on fitting a spindle bung if needed  Bill  ,


And I plan to add a few remote stop/start switches around the shop, so I don't have to keep walking back and forth to switch the phase converter on and off. 


Rob

[Mayhem]

Looking good Rob.  I'm still plugging away with my shop.  I clean up one section and then end up piling it full of crap out of the next one on my list    I spent the whole of today sorting out fasteners.  Funnily enough, the path to the beer fridge is nice and uncluttered