Thanks, I don't own one and most likely never will.
But the two videos were really good to watch. Once again I learn stuff which is why I love this forum.
Sure beats standing for ages with a ball-pein hammer tapping away at a lump of copper - (or was it brass? bit foggy on that.) during my Tech School Daze of 60 odd years past. Heat, quench, and do it again, and again, and again.
End result was a sugar bowl that got a high pass mark. Hooray, mum thought I did well. No idea where it ended up after the family home was sold though.
Sigh, thanks for another trip down memory lane again!
John B