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Offline dawesy

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Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« on: November 01, 2014, 09:00:05 AM »
Saw this milling machine on eBay.
Was at £113 so I thought I'd chuck a cheeky bid on it. Only to find I'd won it for £127

Apparently the knee doesn't raise or lower but at what it's cost I'm not worried.
Any one have any ode of make?
Collecting it next week so I'll post up more pics when I get it.
Lee.
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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2014, 10:54:15 AM »
 Seems a good deal, I was watching it but forgot to bid!

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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2014, 10:55:22 AM »
I don't see any pics,

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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2014, 12:06:51 PM »
I had a look at completed eBay listings and guess this must be it.



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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2014, 12:19:06 PM »
Hi there, Dawesy,

Congratulations, it looks like a bargain, even if you need to do some work on it.

What distance do you have to travel to collect it? 
Best regards,

Pete W.

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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2014, 12:28:42 PM »
It's in Chester.....
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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2014, 12:40:53 PM »
I'm in Nottingham. Bit of a journey but I've been further for things.
Lee.
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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2014, 04:22:55 PM »
Well done I saw that and thought someone got a nice deal.

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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2014, 05:35:54 PM »
Bugger!!!!  i saw that with a day to run and forgot about it. Well done they are a good machine.

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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2014, 03:02:39 AM »
Yeah I was kinda surprised that no one else bid ( but happy obviously :D ) did finish at an odd time though.
John do you know the make? The seller doesn't seem to know much about it?
Lee.
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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2014, 02:23:56 PM »
look rather like a viceroy to me. but without the power feed to table. Im sure there cant be much wrong with it. Possible slight  nut or leadscrew damage if its been screwed right off. suprised it wont reengage though. Im sure you will sort it.

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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2014, 02:47:49 PM »
been looking on Tony@lathes site, dosent appear to be a viceroy after all. in fact ive drawn a blank so far, surely someone here will know,or we will have to wait till you collect it and, and hope theres a name somewhere.

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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2014, 03:19:36 PM »
Does it sit on a stand/cabinet that's not in the picture. If so perhaps the leadscrew for the "Z" is in the stand?

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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2014, 03:51:17 PM »
Think it's floor mount.
Picking it up Tuesday so I'll update. Yeah I'm thinking broken feed nut or screw either way not unrepairable.
Lee.
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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2014, 09:07:43 PM »
This looks more like an AJAX horizontal mill with a slotting head attachment. The long sloped section of the column looks all to familiar? The head does not seam to have any quill or control either, could be wrong though.
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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2014, 09:16:36 PM »
Once in hole stop digging.

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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2014, 02:29:54 AM »
Yeah could be right there. Would explain the hole below the head.
Lee.
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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2014, 03:55:45 AM »
Don't let that put you off though as you might find somebody would do you swap of the slot head for BP series 1 head?
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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2014, 04:18:32 PM »
10 points to Swarfing it is indeed an Ajax horizontal mill.
Seller said he had no idea what make it was a quick look found this plate

Unfortunately some kind soul has removed the pulley system from the rear. Sure I can remake it all and get it working as a horizontal mill again if I can find the sizes etc.
for now a strip down back to cast and some fresh paint is on the cards ( another eBay paint job :( )
All the ways seem in good order and the knee screw has indeed just come off (5 min fix) so good news there.
I'll update as I go.
Lee.
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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2014, 04:24:44 PM »
Bugger!.....Wish I'd known it was an Ajax... i'd have gone for it... :Doh:

I already have an Ajax, mine is an AJ7/8  but a bit earlier than yours...Cant id yours from the Lathes website....

Best of luck restoring it...keep the pictures coming :)
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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2014, 03:19:26 AM »
hi John,
I've tried identifying the model but with no joy. I've fired off an email to ajax to see if they can help.
seems quite sturdy although it was certainly easier to move than the Churchill lathe (that was the equivalent to a small moon)
going to carry on stripping it today.
Lee.
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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2014, 06:09:52 AM »
It seems that 'Ajax' is a bit of a catch-all name for machine tools.

I have an Ajax drilling machine of very solid, cast iron construction,  that has a plate with 'Ajax, Halifax' attached.

But at work we had a large Ajax centre lathe that was made in Bulgaria. Both these machines have the name Ajax cast into the body.

Dave.

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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2014, 08:39:20 AM »
Had a reply and the serial number is not in a normal format :doh: but leads them to think it may be an AJ9 from around 1969. Once it's all pointe and back together I'll send them some pics off for them to confirm.
He did say that they were most likely made in mainland Europe :/
Lee.
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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2014, 08:59:32 AM »
So it could be a successsor to my AJ7/8 then?.....
Now I am envious..... :bow:
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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2014, 09:24:04 AM »
Apparently it's a little larger.
It's identical to the one that Swarfing linked to. I've ask the seller for some pictures of the rear to see how the motor and belt arrangement was.
Just got to figure out what spindle type it is.
Currently it's completely disassembled in the workshop awaiting some wire wheels for the angle grinder to remove the numerous layers of paint.
Lee.
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Re: Oh dear. Milling machine incoming
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2014, 03:59:54 PM »
You should find it is the same setup as viceroy believe with a twin belt. There is no reason though not to be able to set it up as vertical with an all in one head.

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