Author Topic: Bargains can still be had  (Read 9562 times)

Offline Bogstandard

  • Bogs Group
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1107
Bargains can still be had
« on: February 14, 2011, 06:07:32 PM »
Over the last couple of weeks I have been keeping an eye on fleabay for a boring and facing head.

I bid on one but lost it when my max bid was beaten, but a couple of days later, one almost exactly the same came up, so I put in the same bid as before, and to my surprise, later that evening when I checked, no one else had bid on it and I got it for the opening bid of 10 squid plus 11 squid postage. It was delivered by courier a couple of days later. These things cost many hundreds of pounds when new, I just can't believe my luck.

This is the tool, and must weigh well over 10 lbs (5kgs).
The on the run adjusting key was missing, but I can make one of those in no time, and it adjusts perfectly with just a screwdriver in the key hole.



It can take boring bars from about 1/4" right up to 3/4" and it has a fitting screw hole where you can bolt your own made up fittings to, so basically you can bore enormous holes if the need arises.

I have been really struggling the last couple of days to remove the spindle adaptor off it, and even left it overnight with puller pressure on it to see if that would release it. No joy.

So really fed up, this morning, I decided to use a bit of heat, still with the puller pressure applied, and within about five seconds of pointing my plumbers torch at it, the thing fell apart. The reason, the original mandrel was a 3MT. I hate those things, purely because they grip and lock up so tight.

So sometime soon, that 3MT will be ground down to a parallel shank and shortened a bit, so that it can fit into a spindle collet.

I'm getting my tooling prepared for when I start the R & B engine.


Bogs
« Last Edit: February 14, 2011, 06:09:38 PM by bogstandard »
If you don't try it, you will never know if you can do it.

Location - Crewe, Cheshire

Skype - bandit175

Offline Brass_Machine

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5507
  • Country: us
Re: Bargains can still be had
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2011, 06:15:23 PM »
Nice score John!

What's the R&B engine?

Eric
Science is fun.

We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.

Offline Bogstandard

  • Bogs Group
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1107
Re: Bargains can still be had
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2011, 06:59:49 PM »
If you don't try it, you will never know if you can do it.

Location - Crewe, Cheshire

Skype - bandit175

Offline Brass_Machine

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5507
  • Country: us
Re: Bargains can still be had
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2011, 07:06:42 PM »
Doh! I knew that... you sure it isn't the Rhythm & Blues engine??

Eric
Science is fun.

We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.

Offline Bogstandard

  • Bogs Group
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1107
Re: Bargains can still be had
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2011, 10:41:14 PM »
Quote
... you sure it isn't the Rhythm & Blues engine??

Sorry Eric, you have lost me on that one, it must be the culture difference.


BTW, for anyone in the UK, if you have a use for that 3MT to quick change sleeve, it can be yours for the price of postage.


John
If you don't try it, you will never know if you can do it.

Location - Crewe, Cheshire

Skype - bandit175

Offline HS93

  • In Memoriam
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 788
  • Country: gb
Re: Bargains can still be had
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2011, 12:53:40 AM »
Doh! I knew that... you sure it isn't the Rhythm & Blues engine??

Eric

Eric he is From Crew, they are still using cristal sets and wax drums for music,  :poke: they have to wind there music players up , havent you seen bandit he was the dog that was was on there old gramerphone

Peter :lol: :lol:
I am usless at metalwork, Oh and cannot spell either . failure

Offline arnoldb

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 515
  • Country: na
  • Windhoek, Namibia
Re: Bargains can still be had
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2011, 12:19:10 PM »
Very nice John, that really is a bargain!
And a very, very useful tool from what I've been able to establish.

Sort of like a taper turning attachment for a lathe if I'm not mistaken - not necessarily needed very often, but when its really needed its a godsend!

Kind regards, Arnold

Offline Bogstandard

  • Bogs Group
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1107
Re: Bargains can still be had
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2011, 01:23:07 PM »
Arnold,

Especially when I was looking around RDG yesterday and they have started to sell large long boring bars at very reasonable prices, this one is 20mm diameter. So I ordered one and it turned up just after lunch today.




And this is what it looks like in the orientation it will be mounted on the mill, sitting in front of the casting it will be used on.




This is called planning well ahead of time.


John
If you don't try it, you will never know if you can do it.

Location - Crewe, Cheshire

Skype - bandit175

Offline krv3000

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2185
  • Country: gb
Re: Bargains can still be had
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2011, 05:17:09 PM »
yep a good catch in dede

Offline Bogstandard

  • Bogs Group
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1107
Re: Bargains can still be had
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2011, 05:54:38 PM »
Krv,

As Arnold has said, it is a bit of a speciality tool, and only needed when a job occurs that needs it. But in this case, I have been thinking for months how I am going to bore that cylinder, and this should solve the problem for me.

In fact, it cost less, even with the new boring bar, than what I paid for my mini boring head and spindle adaptor the other week.

John
If you don't try it, you will never know if you can do it.

Location - Crewe, Cheshire

Skype - bandit175

Offline bry1975

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 417
  • Country: gb
    • http://www.satintime.co.uk
Re: Bargains can still be had
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2011, 06:33:10 PM »
Certainly looks one hell of a boring tool and facing head bogs!

Offline Tugwilson

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 16
Re: Bargains can still be had
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2011, 01:58:13 AM »
just had a quick look on fiebay and the cheepst is around £560 so one hell of a bargin Bogs.

Offline Bogstandard

  • Bogs Group
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1107
Re: Bargains can still be had
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2011, 02:57:14 AM »
You are quite right Tug, I was in exactly the right spot at the right time.

A week before, just the same, but someone outbid me.


Bogs
If you don't try it, you will never know if you can do it.

Location - Crewe, Cheshire

Skype - bandit175