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Offline naffsharpe (Nathan)

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ISO Toolholders
« on: January 09, 2012, 06:58:47 AM »
Hi, I'm thinking of making some toolholders for indexable carbide tips of varying shapes,each toolholder to be made as I need it.While I can find the geometry for the tips easily finding the same for the toolholder is proving slightly more difficult. Could anyone point me in the right direction?         Nathan.

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Re: ISO Toolholders
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2012, 09:57:01 AM »
Hi Nathan,

Ill be following this thread with interest. How were you intending to machine out the correct recess for the tool?

Nick

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Re: ISO Toolholders
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2012, 10:04:28 AM »
Hi,

I looked for some  drawings/ dimensions for holders about 6-7 years ago. I really didn't find much at all.

I mainly wanted the pocket dimensions and at the time it seemed no one wanted to part with them.

May be times have changed and you might be able to find something.

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Re: ISO Toolholders
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2012, 12:15:01 PM »
John Stevenson made a batch a few years back - can't remember which forum he described them on, but he features on most engineering fora !!!

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Re: ISO Toolholders
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2012, 02:19:25 PM »
Hi, Thanks for the replies. I've discovered that I do have one Mitsubishi R/H 90deg tool and have dug out an excuse for a toolholder I made many years ago. So looking at the 90deg tool I intend to find the range of tips it will carry. From that I should be able to see if the pocket depth is uniform across that range and wether the packing shim changes tip for tip. Looking on the Mitsubishi website I found that 2 lengths of clamp screw are available so there is some latitude in thickness of tip allowable. Basic shaping will be carried out on the mill after I've worked out the correct tip/centre height for my lathe. I'm going to take the tool geometry from a catalogue on the RS website which gives plan views and calculate tip "overhang" from the Mitsubishi tool. I will photograph things as I try them and will attempt to post them here. I plan on 1 x L/h, 1 x R/H both at 93 deg 1 x L/H at 90 deg and any others as I need them !! I already have TNMG/TPMR/DCMT tips so will use them first.
My existing homemade tool takes a TPMR Sandvic tip and was made by file/hacksaw and Mig.Clamping is carried out from above using what is essentially a small (very) machine table clamp bar and 1/4 Whit set screw.  It looks rough but works well!!
                      Wish me luck.          Nathan.

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Re: ISO Toolholders
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Re: ISO Toolholders
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2012, 03:55:20 PM »
Thanks for that Nick, I've added it to my ever expanding tool data file!!
                                            Nathan.

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Re: ISO Toolholders
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2012, 02:08:23 PM »
Hi all, This is going to have to wait I'm afraid. Diagnosed with Respiratory Tract Infection similar to Whooping Cough. I can bareley get a full breath without paroxysmal coughing so I really do not want to be having a coughing fit and falling into a mill/lathe. Workshop is off limits so I'll continue in the drawing office (house) and hope I'm left to do my thing without too much hassle from the Missus!!
Nathan

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Re: ISO Toolholders
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2012, 02:12:12 PM »
Hope you're soon back to it, Nathan!  :thumbup:

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Re: ISO Toolholders
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2012, 03:35:19 PM »
Thanks David, It's real b**g*r getting old!!
Nathan.
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Re: ISO Toolholders
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2012, 03:48:21 PM »
Thanks David, It's real b**g*r getting old!!
Nathan.

Ohh........ Yes!  :(

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Re: ISO Toolholders
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2012, 06:36:37 PM »
Thanks David, It's real b**g*r getting old!!

Just consider the alternative.  :-)

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Re: ISO Toolholders
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2012, 04:53:49 PM »
Here is a drw for a toolholder that fits an AXA tool post

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Re: ISO Toolholders
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2012, 04:53:58 AM »
Well, you might not like my method, but it works...

I start with a scrap of steel that is going to become my insert toolholder. I machine all surfaces as needed. The top is machined so that when the insert is layed on it, the insert will be at center height - don't make a pocket, just make the top flat. Now position the insert and use a transfer punch to mark the center hole. Drill and tap the hole. Mount the insert, oriented the correct way....yeah I know...there's no pocket...just be patient...

Now go get a little piece of steel. Depending on the size of the insert, but I often use a short piece of 1/4" keystock. Butt it up against the insert. Clamp down. A quick tack with the MIG and remove the insert (don't want much heat in that carbide!). Now finish welding. Grind, smooth, etc. accordingley.

Mount the insert again and scribe along the edges so you know where you need to mill off the extra toolholder for clearences (picture a round insert or triangle insert mounted on the end of a rectangle....you're going to need to remove material...).

I know it won't end up winning any beauty awards, but it works!

Andrew

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Re: ISO Toolholders
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2012, 08:14:11 AM »
Andrew, thats more or less the way I made my original. Hacksawed/filed to give Tip  at centre height, then cut a plate just less than Tip thickness with "pocket" cut out. This was then plug welded to the body, cleaned up and the clamp fitted. It's worked for years but I now have a mill so should be able to do a more pro/neat job. Bronchitis now diagnosed as well as the RTI, no longer like coffee, Jack Daniels is beginning to taste c++p and obviously I no longer smoke. I hate being unwell!!
Nathan