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Title: Mill bearings
Post by: kayz1 on September 17, 2013, 04:40:57 PM
Evening all, has anyone pulled a Chester Champion 16v mill to bits please? my spindle bearings have chucked  their hand in today so i am looking for tips on replacing them.
 Ta!  Lyn.
Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: mechman48 on September 18, 2013, 10:55:06 AM
Hi Lyn
May I suggest you look at the MEW website & forums for further help as I recall seeing something mentioned re Chester Mill repairs etc. although I'm sure this forum will come up with answers.
Cheers
George
Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: John Rudd on September 18, 2013, 11:20:54 AM
I've changed them on a Conquest.........

Swapped out the ball raced units for taper rollers...much better!

Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: kayz1 on September 18, 2013, 02:55:44 PM
Thanks chaps, i did nip up the bottom taper bearing this morning much better but still cannot hear myself think..Whats's the Chester 626 like?
Christmas is on it's way, i could keep the noisy 16v just as a drill press. SWMBO said just get it....if only i had more space.
  Lyn.
Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: JohnC on September 18, 2013, 03:37:38 PM
Hi Kayz,
I have the Chester 626 - I think it is OK.  There's lots of info on the 626 Yahoo group.  I put a 3 phase motor and VFD on mine and that has made the world of difference.
Rgds,
John
Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: kayz1 on September 18, 2013, 03:50:58 PM
Thanks for that John,,,will run the ruler over the floor to check if i will be able to my bikes in the shed also..

Ow! whilst i'm on, has anyone any info on the Lux machines, size looks about do-able for my avaiable space.
Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: John Rudd on September 18, 2013, 03:57:40 PM
I also have the Eagle 30 from Chester.....but converted to 3 ph with an inverter.....
Love it to bits....
Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: philf on September 18, 2013, 04:14:52 PM
Hi Kayz,
I have the Chester 626 - I think it is OK.  There's lots of info on the 626 Yahoo group.  I put a 3 phase motor and VFD on mine and that has made the world of difference.
Rgds,
John

kayz1,

Are you sure the spindle bearings are your problem? At work, one department bought a mill/drill (Warco Major I think) and the noise was unbearable - it turned out to be the crap Taiwanese motor. The vibration from the motor even prevented you from getting a decent finish. It wasn't down to balance or poor bearings in the motor because when you cut the power and let the machine freewheel to a stop it was very quiet.

I guess that before today that the noise was acceptable - in which case the motor probably isn't to blame but it's worth running the motor with the belt off to check.
 
Phil.
Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: kayz1 on September 18, 2013, 07:57:05 PM
Hi Phil, i did run the motor off the head and all was silky smooth..
Lyn.
Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: kayz1 on September 20, 2013, 04:35:17 AM
Now then i have a problem, the boss ( Pat ) says i can have a new mill as i spend most of my time in the shed :clap: so is it 626 or superLux from Chester and do i go MT3 or R8 many thanks.
Lyn.
Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: lordedmond on September 20, 2013, 09:21:10 AM
 Depends on how much tooling you have in MT3  if none go R8


but both will do the job , I was forced into going the MT3 route because I have a large amount of MT3 tooling


Stuart
Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: porker on September 20, 2013, 09:45:29 AM
+1 if you already have the tooling then get the same otherwise you will spend s lot retooling. If I had to choose though I would go R8 - loads of tooling available and taper releases easier.
Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: unc1esteve on September 20, 2013, 10:30:41 AM
Repair the old mill, give the rest of the money to the Boss.
You will be much happier.
Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: kayz1 on September 20, 2013, 01:44:07 PM
Repair the old mill, give the rest of the money to the Boss.
You will be much happier.


To late the deed is done  :thumbup: paid half as deposit today for 626 with power feed and DRO...
 Lyn.    PS: tis only money  :clap:
Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: unc1esteve on September 20, 2013, 02:20:40 PM
Are you located near Shreveport?  I will take the old mill.
Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: kayz1 on September 20, 2013, 02:47:36 PM
Sorry North Wales UK...
Lyn.
Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: kayz1 on September 20, 2013, 02:52:27 PM
I picked Metric with R8, i do have a start as i have a bunch of R8 collets for the grinder never been used. Plus i ordered collet chuck for my 25's any thing else will come in time..as i said above i just have to make some room in the shed or sell a bike or two.. :>(
Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: vtsteam on September 20, 2013, 06:52:43 PM
...i just have to make some room in the shed or sell a bike or two.. :>(

ugh....

but congrats on the new mill!  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: DMIOM on September 21, 2013, 05:00:34 AM
...... sell a bike or two.....

Then, since ypu've now you've got the kit, you can follow Tom's example and build a new bike! (http://madmodder.net/index.php/topic,8107.msg97980.html#msg97980)  :proj:
Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: kayz1 on September 21, 2013, 03:22:10 PM
I have been following the thread, if only i had  1% of that mans skills i would be very happy...i only play.
In saying play i had another play with the 16v today and when i adjusted the tapper bearing in the bottom
it runs very nice once again...must learn how to use my grinder as i have a bucket full of blunt cutters :doh:
Title: Re: Mill bearings
Post by: Jonny on September 21, 2013, 06:46:15 PM
Noise can be vibration on what its sitting on, been there done it.
Worst railway sleepers followed by 4x2", quietist 30x30x5 angle uprights bolted to back wall.

Regarding the Lux's only use decent branded bearings which are available off the shelf.
Pain with the top oil seal.