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Title: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on April 26, 2013, 04:37:00 PM
Well, itīs going on:

My TedRobot inspecting the new enterprise:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/CIMG9308_zps705f5d63.jpg)

Overview:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/CIMG9330_zps0ca698ba.jpg)

Sketch:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/CIMG9324_zps376464cb.jpg)

The turbine:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/CIMG9365_zps67b95f0e.jpg)

....will be continued
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on May 01, 2013, 01:01:01 PM
Oh Hilde, Labour Day: Continuing with my cars:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/CIMG9394_zpse4a1bb0e.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/CIMG9392_zps1c2b65f0.jpg)

Turbine with flywheel:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/CIMG9399_zps552c4dd4.jpg)

Tank clutch:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/CIMG9398_zps7e451586.jpg)
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: slowcoach on May 01, 2013, 04:40:48 PM
Looking good  :thumbup: can't wait to see and hear it run  :headbang:

Rob :thumbup:
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on May 03, 2013, 04:09:15 PM
Thank you!!

So, tonight i was feeling generous at times, test run the turbines: Half ceramic vers. full ceramic bearings. Half ceramic wins!

I guess that it was the plastic cover of the full ceramic. Which are apparently heat sensitive. The turbine slowed down after 20 sec steam. So tentatively extended. Were naturally bonded with Loctite 648th


The result?

Remember: 60 EUR! (= 6 boxes Radeberger bear!) later:


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/CIMG9402_zpse179afcb.jpg)

Tomorrow i make the next test run. If it should not have been the ceramics, i melt the whole project!
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: Stilldrillin on May 03, 2013, 05:28:58 PM
Hi Kurt.

That is looking good! A project easily recognised as "Yours".  :thumbup:

Hope tomorrow's test goes ok. With no disaster!

Looking forward to another one of your, adventure videos.........  :D

David D
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on May 05, 2013, 03:22:26 PM
Tank you!

And now: some noise:






(Edited youtube link. David D)
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: dsquire on May 05, 2013, 04:23:24 PM
Looks like it passed the test today. I didn't see any pieces flying. Any idea of what RPM you were able to reach?  :D :D

Cheers  :beer:

Don

Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: slowcoach on May 05, 2013, 04:46:56 PM
Wow it really screams. Awesome stuff  :clap: boiler does its job really well keeping that turbine running  :bugeye:

Rob  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: krv3000 on May 06, 2013, 03:37:43 PM
well dun brill :thumbup:
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: micktoon on May 06, 2013, 03:57:18 PM
Nice work  :thumbup: , I can't wait to see it runing  :drool:

 Cheers Mick.
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on May 07, 2013, 05:34:27 PM
Thank you all!

Looks like it passed the test today. Any idea of what RPM you were able to reach?

Yes, big relief for all.  :thumbup:

RPM Turbine is 11.000, and 2.500 at the output, at last 1.200 on the wheels.

Best regards
Kurt
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: doubleboost on May 07, 2013, 05:43:24 PM
Very nice
Great sounds
I have had a bit play with gas turbines
The sound is addictive
John
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on May 08, 2013, 01:53:50 PM
Well, that was something! Just had a test run. With reinforced spring in the clutch. And new gear reduction 1:4. And 1 kg of lead weight for the lacking aluskin.
 
First the good news:
 
- The clutch works!
- The racing car - and it's really one - sprints with about 8 km / h as devil. Even uphill! Madness!
 
Now the other side:
 
- Turbines also appear to be sensitive to water hammer. The steam dome - if one can even speak of it, is more of a tiny dome - and is backwards. When starting up there is water in the pipe, and indeed not even a little. Since I have still no superheater, the water comes in as 1:1 into the turbine. Now I have an ugly noise in that part, metal on metal. The revision will show. Pray with me ...
 
- The RC and the receiver are going to be melted. Denial of service. But i have enough spare spot.
 
- The butane tank temperature is a minor problem. But not a real one.
 
What remains to be done:
 
- Installing a superheater and hope that the turbine / bearing withstands the temperature. Furthermore, that the present performance remains despite then superheated steam (= less kinetic energy).

- Installing a three gear clutch. I have to extend one of their axes. Toi toi toi!
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on May 09, 2013, 03:46:45 PM
Instead of drinking for Father's Day today in Germany I have built the superheater, model immersion heater - cozy after the melting of the FB. Test follows.

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/CIMG9411_zps5ab3c9b6.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/CIMG9420_zps06257065.jpg)
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: lordedmond on May 10, 2013, 02:36:31 AM
 Keep your eye on the copper super heater they burn out real quick

a better solution is stainless steel tube use for hypodermic needles ( vetenary ) that what I use for my loco's

for info I use 8 elements bent up like a trombone of 5/32 dis. this can be bent to a .5 inch rad with tube bender

good work on the cars I do like the Audi

I am interested in your forum name translated its baffle plate , maybe its got lost in translation from German


Stuart
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: PekkaNF on May 10, 2013, 03:42:24 AM
....I am interested in your forum name translated its baffle plate , maybe its got lost in translation from German
Stuart
I checkked that handle as well first time I saw it here, and whereas it seems to have very many translations and google does not help much  :lol: I reasoned that most likely possibility could be louvre panel, specially the one at front of the car?

PekkaNF

O.T enjoyed very much YT links, they show some serious multi talent straits.
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on May 10, 2013, 07:07:10 AM

Thank you,

i will change the copper if it works and use stainless steal.

Forum name: in my case, it means impact plate and was developped in the end of 2006 (go to 3:05)



 :zap:
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on May 10, 2013, 11:11:16 AM
The idea of uncontrolled overheating was actually not effective, unfortunately. New ball bearings are already on the way, and once I have a buyer for my gardeners kidneys, i buy also a new turbine. Since the whole desaster is still quite hot, i will only be able to report in a few hours from the full extent of the damage. After all, the house is still standing. And nobody hurt, apart from the psychological damage.
 
Water hammer is still working excellent. Thanks to the 1-meter superheater line right now like a flash. Probably acts as a cannon: the longer the pipe, the greater the V zero.
 
In all the ruins i also found some consolation: because of advice i now have a copper wire in the water level glas: no more bubbles, display works perfect.
 
And now? Steam dome increase / relocate or build steam collecting drum i cant. I do not need drainage at the beginning, since then nothing is compressed. A half full boiler in the beginning stays as a little result.
 
Or melt down. Speaking of melting: I previously preferred way less elegant methods: (here 1:45 min.)



Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on May 18, 2013, 02:31:55 PM
My anti-water hammer bypass almost naked:


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/CIMG9442_zpsd7c9f0e0.jpg)

and attracted ...:



(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/CIMG9452_zps82553a91.jpg)

Works fine!

btw: I can now also extend waves:


(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/CIMG9461_zps305bca9d.jpg)
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on May 20, 2013, 02:42:56 PM
Hilde on Alu (Kiellegung):

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/CIMG9469_zpsf75dcac6.jpg)

The mystery picture??

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/CIMG9473_zpsc2e51923.jpg)
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on June 02, 2013, 05:31:34 PM
... some hours later:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/IMG_2590_zps1a3cd855.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/IMG_2595_zps647509f7.jpg)

Its now 2 meters long. Stay tuned...

btw: why did i call the projekt "The Needle" ?

Well:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/IMG_2572_zps0ada4ca6.jpg)
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on June 14, 2013, 07:58:35 PM
3 km of harness: I'm going crazy. But nothing helps: pure he must, even if we both cry ...:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/IMG_2644_zpsb86c66d5.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/IMG_2646_zpscd112a76.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/IMG_2650_zpsc32a462b.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/IMG_2652_zpsf9949138.jpg)

Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: Stilldrillin on June 15, 2013, 02:01:47 AM
A large, beautiful project Kurt.  :clap: :clap:

Keep up the good work!  :thumbup:

David D
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: Bangkok Mick on June 15, 2013, 08:00:25 AM
great looking project
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: Kjelle on June 15, 2013, 05:25:16 PM
 :bow: :clap: :drool:

Kjelle
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on June 16, 2013, 02:02:19 PM
Thank you very much!

Thus, final in the offing. Here are a few preliminary images:

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/steamturbinecar1_zpsdcb9b22a.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/steamturbinecar5_zpsb7d27204.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/steamturbinecar3_zpsa6e238f8.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/steamturbinecar6_zpsb616d4a6.jpg)

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/steamturbinecar2_zps67ecb981.jpg)
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on June 24, 2013, 06:27:03 PM
Short information about the expected video: The saltlakes in Lampukistan fall flat because as a result of the coup in Italy (Silvio = 7 years) Vlugodmirows nephew, the reigning lampukische dictator, ban issued. Unfortunately, my gardener was already in place. Its quite loud on my AB while his final syllable sounded very much like Makarov ...

Never mind, hopefully tomorrow comes the confirmation from Darayya, an absolute plane level, extremely high speed suitable and absolutely peaceful as my lady confirmed from the travel agency. Although viruses had plenty of messages "Tempora" in the booking process, but will work out.

Something completely different: watch for hours these two cars on my driveway, moment, now people are also on the terrace, what do they wan
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: micktoon on June 24, 2013, 06:58:49 PM
Wow Kurt , that is a work of art ...........thanks for posting ..........you have some skill there , Cheers Mick   :beer:
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: Pete49 on June 24, 2013, 10:48:02 PM
Very nice work Kurt. 2 questions though where does the bear sit and does he have or need a licence to thrill?
Pete
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: slowcoach on June 25, 2013, 05:52:18 AM
Loved following this thread. well done Kurt, fantastic work  :clap: :clap:

Rob  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: krv3000 on June 25, 2013, 05:27:49 PM
well dun  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on June 26, 2013, 06:04:17 PM
Thank you very much!

Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on August 11, 2013, 06:12:40 PM
Here we go:

DESERT B III

Between Short info: screenplay ready. All models and also decorations. Together eight remote parts, even the remotes, two buildings, plenty of branded drinks, plenty of paint and leather, about twenty Supporting Actors (almost all dead), 10 cameras with tens of ball heads, brackets and stands, 3 mics, about thirty batteries phrases (more than 150 batteries individually). several liters of distilled water, five cans butane gas, pyrotechnics (all years allowed), wooden stakes, lots of heart, blood and sand (div acres), no gardener, a G 18 poster, two trolleys, then the carnage're ready to go. I will report ...
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on August 24, 2013, 02:43:04 PM
Desert B III is coming! My gardener is on the way to the beautiful S*.  This time not with a  :smart:, but with ***, thats probably some kind of low-cost suppliers. The film crew is wearing this time nice green sweat suites. What they were lugging everything! Hopefully, no one will be injured. I'm looking forward to the first pre-images ...
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: Stilldrillin on August 24, 2013, 05:02:35 PM
It all sounds mysteriously intriguing, Kurt!   :scratch:

We're all waiting patiently, for the video explanation........  :thumbup:

David D
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on August 27, 2013, 05:56:15 PM
telegram from s*.stop.first pictures on my channel available.stop.conditions to film very bad.stop.more soon.stop



Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: Stilldrillin on August 28, 2013, 02:02:56 AM
Oh..... My....... The suspense........  :bugeye:

 :thumbup: :clap: :clap:

David D
Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on October 10, 2013, 02:18:14 PM
First, missing in S*, but now home again! The state is the long trip accordingly. Bad bad bad. My Robots screw for hours already on the cars. However, and unfortunately, not without losses:

     


Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on October 26, 2013, 04:53:46 PM
My Gardener is still in S. But i leave no one back. Bought a drone to find him. Will we see us again?


Title: Re: Steam Turbine Car
Post by: prallplatte on November 01, 2013, 05:25:33 PM
...and while you're sitting comfortably on the sofa and thinking all joy with RC is only during the daytime, the preparations here for the night flight are proceeding...

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o115/voltax1/IMG_5366_zpsfc155b36.jpg)