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The Shop => Tools => Topic started by: John Stevenson on November 27, 2011, 06:45:54 PM

Title: How NOT to break small milling cutters.
Post by: John Stevenson on November 27, 2011, 06:45:54 PM
Bit of background first.

Making a raft of HTD 5M series pulleys, mill a stick out on the 4th axis CNC in two sizes 40 teeth and 20 teeth for 2:1 reductions for the CNC conversions.

(http://www.stevenson-engineers.co.uk/files/HTD%20pulleys.jpg)

These are dead easy to do, get the OD from tables or off the HPC web site and for the 5M series you need a 1/8" ball nose cutter plunged in to a depth of 2.16mm - job done.

Now the tricky bit, ball nose cutters are a bitch to traverse with because as the radius gets to centre there isn't much clearance and right on centre that part of the cutter isn't rotating, so feeds have to be very conservative.

The only cutters I had on stock were long reach two flute Chinese cutters and the chances of breaking one of these with 20mm of flute length will either be high or very boring if done in 17,457 passes [ approx ]

So brilliant brainwave, not seen this posted before but it's that simple it must have been done before.
Took a piece of 10mm steel and cut and faced it both ends equal to 5mm less than the length of the cutter, centre driled it and drilled one end 1/4" to a depth just over the shank length and the other end was drilled 1/8" to match the cutter. Slot cut in the side with a hacksaw and the cutter inserted so that it stuck proud by 5mm.

This way only 5mm of the cutter is unsupported.

(http://www.stevenson-engineers.co.uk/files/cutter%20collet1.jpg)

(http://www.stevenson-engineers.co.uk/files/cutter%20collet3.jpg)

Started off doing it in two passes but them swapped to full depth with no problems.

End results.

(http://www.stevenson-engineers.co.uk/files/HTD%20pulleys2.jpg)

John S.
Title: Re: How NOT to break small milling cutters.
Post by: spuddevans on November 28, 2011, 01:24:27 AM
Very neat trick there John :thumbup: :thumbup: Consider that one filed away for future reference.


Tim
Title: Re: How NOT to break small milling cutters.
Post by: sbwhart on November 28, 2011, 01:58:43 AM
Quote from: spuddevans on November 28, 2011, 01:24:27 AM
Very neat trick there John :thumbup: :thumbup: Consider that one filed away for future reference.


Tim

dito

Stew
Title: Re: How NOT to break small milling cutters.
Post by: Stilldrillin on November 28, 2011, 02:20:05 AM
Quote from: spuddevans on November 28, 2011, 01:24:27 AM
Very neat trick there John :thumbup: :thumbup: Consider that one filed away for future reference.

Tim

 :bugeye:   Yess!!    :clap: :clap: :thumbup:

In all my years of production milling........ I never thought of that!  :palm:

Blummin great idea John!  :D

David D
Title: Re: How NOT to break small milling cutters.
Post by: Bernd on November 28, 2011, 09:27:35 AM
Brilliant way of solving a problem John.  :thumbup:  :thumbup:

Stored for future use.  :med:

Bernd
Title: Re: How NOT to break small milling cutters.
Post by: Joules on November 28, 2011, 09:54:33 AM
Where was this idea two months ago when I was snapping 1mm carbide cutters   :Doh:   Will give this a go REAL soon.

Cheers John....
Title: Re: How NOT to break small milling cutters.
Post by: Swarfing on November 28, 2011, 11:11:10 AM
John all you need to do is show us how you cut hose rings for the pulleys and let us know how you get them to it and this thread will be perfect....LOL!

Nice job well done :thumbup:
Title: Re: How NOT to break small milling cutters.
Post by: John Stevenson on November 28, 2011, 02:00:32 PM
The rings are cheating, they are laser cut. I bunged them in on the back of another order, I reckon 50 of each size [ 50 pulleys worth total ] cost about £40.

John S.
Title: Re: How NOT to break small milling cutters.
Post by: jim on November 28, 2011, 02:29:55 PM
excellent!!!
Title: Re: How NOT to break small milling cutters.
Post by: AndyB on November 28, 2011, 03:42:19 PM
Cracking idea John  :bow:

Just what I need for milling in the lathe!

Thank you

Andy