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Title: layout blue
Post by: colin563 on October 30, 2009, 07:58:34 AM
im looking for layout blue

ive tried stuarts blue it doesnt dry i get covered in it

also ive tried the stuff from chronos wich is more like ink

when i i learnt my mechanics trade we used some that was more like paint


anybody now were i could get this from in the uk


thankss colin
Title: Re: layout blue
Post by: Stilldrillin on October 30, 2009, 08:45:56 AM
Colin,

Anywhere you know selling Rocol products? We used this, when I was working for a living.  :thumbup:

http://www.rocol.com/lubricants/english/metalworking/layoutink/

There might be a can hiding under my bench, if you`re stuck........

Can you use a marking pen, instead?  :scratch:

David D

Title: Re: layout blue
Post by: bogstandard on October 30, 2009, 09:24:12 AM
Colin,

Good quality permanent broad tip markers work just as well.

My normal layout blue is like Chronos' offering, and I use a small brush to paint on a thin layer and spread it about. It takes about 5 mins to dry.


Bogs


Title: Re: layout blue
Post by: colin563 on October 30, 2009, 09:45:14 AM
im going to try a permenent marker first just sent wife to wilkos for 1

i think the rocol seems exspensive at £20 -£25 a tin

the chronos stuff just isnt dark enough for me

and the stuarts i got in a right mess blue finger prints everywere the wife was going nuts  :(

thanks colin

Title: Re: layout blue
Post by: John Stevenson on October 30, 2009, 09:54:45 AM
Artists supply shop sells these big Fat Eddinds ? Eddings ? marker pens for about £2.50
Lasts ages, quick clean and even through I have a full gallon of proper markout blue I wouldn't go back.

When I used to use layout blue it would get knocked over, get leant on with the result we used to have a purple dog and Gert had blue finger prints on her knickers for 2 months until it washed out.

John S
Title: Re: layout blue
Post by: John Rudd on October 30, 2009, 10:01:51 AM

My layout blue is Chronos' offering, and I use a small brush to paint on a thin layer and spread it about. It takes about 5 mins to dry.

Bogs


Ditto....

I also got some from Reeves.....same stuff
Title: Re: layout blue
Post by: colin563 on October 30, 2009, 12:33:42 PM
just got a couple of markers

they work better than the layout blue  :) and a lot cheaper


and easy to use


thanks colin
Title: Re: layout blue
Post by: raynerd on October 30, 2009, 03:22:06 PM
I use to use some stuff I got from Chronos about 10 years ago when I first got a little unimat. Doesn`t dry very evenly and I get it all over myself. When I heard some people on here used marker pens I also adopted this idea and they work really really well.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: layout blue
Post by: jim on October 30, 2009, 03:25:20 PM
i use markers and CD  pens :thumbup:
Title: Re: layout blue
Post by: John Hill on October 30, 2009, 03:32:38 PM
I took a plastic bottle to a local printer and 'asked his advice', he sort of 'hurrumphed', took my bottle away and brought it back filled with blue ink that smells of methelated spirits.
Title: Re: layout blue
Post by: bogstandard on October 30, 2009, 03:57:17 PM
John,

I said mine was like Chronos' offering, but in fact it is aniline dye spirit based printing ink, the same as yours, thinned down with meths.

Wonderful stuff, but has a tendency to be carcinogenic.


John
Title: Re: layout blue
Post by: websterz on October 30, 2009, 07:48:38 PM
John,

I said mine was like Chronos' offering, but in fact it is aniline dye spirit based printing ink, the same as yours, thinned down with meths.

Wonderful stuff, but has a tendency to be carcinogenic.


John


What DOESN'T cause cancer these days?  ::)
Title: Re: layout blue
Post by: John Hill on October 30, 2009, 09:14:02 PM
............. but has a tendency to be carcinogenic.


Been there, done that. :coffee:
Title: Re: layout blue
Post by: NickG on November 09, 2009, 10:54:12 AM
I have a bottle of blue that my dad gave me years ago, came from a school, they obviously never used it, it must be donkeys years old! Think it would last for ever. I hardly ever use it, I paint it on with a small paint brush, dries quick but does tend to get everywhere and not that even coating. I need to get used to marking things out properly so might try this marker idea.
Title: Re: layout blue
Post by: one_rod on November 10, 2009, 05:03:09 PM


....and the stuarts i got in a right mess blue finger prints everywere the wife was going nuts ....

thanks colin



Stuarts is not a layout blue at all, is it?

If it's the stuff I'm thinking of (in the little round tin) it's for use when scraping bearings, or checking flats to a surface plate .
It's not supposed to dry.

But yes, messy stuff if you get it the wrong place, and a little goes a long way.



one_rod.
Title: Re: layout blue
Post by: Bernd on November 10, 2009, 05:42:51 PM
Stuarts is not a layout blue at all, is it?

If it's the stuff I'm thinking of (in the little round tin) it's for use when scraping bearings, or checking flats to a surface plate .
It's not supposed to dry.

But yes, messy stuff if you get it the wrong place, and a little goes a long way.



one_rod.

In the US where I worked we called it Prussian Blue. Why? Don't know. But your right, a little went a long way. They used to play pranks at work. They would put a little bit of that blue on the telephone receiver and then call you. You'd walk around with a blue ear for a very long time.  :lol:

Bernd
Title: Re: layout blue
Post by: No1_sonuk on December 15, 2009, 08:14:47 PM
Prussian Blue is the pigment used.

Layout blue has it in solution with alcohol (mine smells like Isopropyl alcohol).  This is the stuff that dries (the alcohol evaporates, leaving the pigment behind).
The stuff that doesn't dry is called "Engineers' Blue", I think.  That still has the Prussian Blue pigment, but it's in oil.
Title: Re: layout blue
Post by: raynerd on December 15, 2009, 08:48:03 PM
Just curious, if it doesn`t dry how do you use it? Or have I misunderstood.
Title: Re: layout blue
Post by: Darren on December 15, 2009, 08:49:45 PM
Chris, the non drying stuff is for scraping, shows you where the high spots are and where you need to remove metal.
Title: Re: layout blue
Post by: raynerd on December 15, 2009, 09:00:44 PM
Got you!! Thanks