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Title: Another odd one for you
Post by: JD on October 25, 2015, 09:05:16 AM
Gents, went to an industrial museum at Amberly West Sussex a cracking day out. In the old printing press was this tool/thingy we were asked by staff if we could find out what it was used for, the Museum has had it on public display for some years, as to date still don't know what it`s purpose is.
Any body help.
Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: mechman48 on October 25, 2015, 12:33:14 PM
Some sort of perforating machine to put leaves into some sort of early ring binder ...  :scratch: ??
George.
Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: tom osselton on October 25, 2015, 03:27:25 PM
Looks to me like some sort of folder maybe for bookbinding?
Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: shipto on October 25, 2015, 04:07:01 PM
Any other views?
Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: BillTodd on October 25, 2015, 04:09:16 PM
 intriguing :-)

the key maybe is why the seven vertical cutter/folderrs need to pop upright prior to the blade descending.

the gaps in the blade suggest that it punctures the sheet of whatever as it bottoms out.

the machine as a whole does not seem that strong nor that precise, so perhaps the use is culinary or light agricultural.

[edit] more observations.

there is no room behind the vertical blade area for a large sheet (e.g for folding a page of a book)

the arm that moves the top blade would not allow anything to be folded that is deeper than the blade.

raising the seven blades to vertical would also push the object to the right, perhaps for alignment.

the seven blades are removable, perhaps for cleaning.


Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: BillTodd on October 25, 2015, 04:15:54 PM
Could it be a rhubarb cutter?

slicing and dicing in one hit B-)
Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: shipto on October 25, 2015, 04:30:36 PM
I was thinking that the "blades" seem more for pushing than cutting. the reason I asked if there was any other views was the slot on the right, it seems to guide the blade as you pull down on the handle but maybe it helps the blade push whatever through???
I am guessing some sort of sorting or collumating machine.
Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: JD on October 25, 2015, 07:35:26 PM
Thanks for your reply and suggestions.
When the lever is pulled all the plates at the bottom move up and along as if to pass something from left to right or vickey verky. 
Bill rhubarb cutter  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Shipto no sorry no other views as I know of, will ask the Boys if any more photos were taken.
John

Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: BillTodd on October 26, 2015, 03:35:24 PM
jd, can i post your pic on another forum? (yanks love this sort of thing:-)  )

Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: JD on October 26, 2015, 07:01:03 PM
Bill help your self the more the merrier.
John
Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: Bangkok Mick on October 27, 2015, 12:27:47 AM
My guess is that it is used for some type of weaving perhaps for a narrow 7 or 14 strand thick belt and there is another part handheld or otherwise missing.
Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: shipto on October 27, 2015, 06:39:18 PM
without other views its hard to be sure but I have a theory: the ribbons of whatever are fed into it and the blade is brought down locking in place then some other machine performs some operation which would leave whatever loose and able to fall back but the blade prevents this.
similar to the way a feather board works on a table saw.
Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: Alan Haisley on October 30, 2015, 01:41:24 PM
A Youtube video of a couple of cycles of the action might help to understand what it is. If you go back to the museum, see if you can make a video to post.


Alan
Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: BillTodd on November 02, 2015, 08:00:32 AM
Progress: 

It seems to be an egg crate folder/maker (according to ebay :  http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/281819914594?item=281819914594&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466&rmvSB=true )


And here is the type of crate it was used to make (not the exact one but enough to get the drift)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-VINTAGE-PRIMITIVE-WOOD-EGG-CRATE-HAND-MADE-/321892055579


I guess that a  Printer could make a useful and valuable product out of his scrap paper with such a tool :)


JD, When you're next in the museum perhaps you could ask then to insert a strip of card or paper and try it out.


Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: JD on November 02, 2015, 11:18:26 AM
Gentlemen thanks for all your replies a lot of thinking outside the box (sorry).
Bill great find I will pass your find onto the Museum and give this site and its members a chuck up.
Thanks once again for all your help.
JD
Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: shipto on November 02, 2015, 04:53:31 PM
a egg crate maker never would have got that, thought I was on the right track with the feather board idea. :Doh:
Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: BillTodd on November 02, 2015, 05:09:22 PM
a egg crate maker never would have got that, thought I was on the right track with the feather board idea. :Doh:

I still like my rhubarb cutter  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: JD on November 02, 2015, 09:26:51 PM
Bill, you a custard or ice cream man  :drool:
Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: BillTodd on November 03, 2015, 04:11:03 AM
Bill, you a custard or ice cream man  :drool:

case-hardened custard , every time ;-)
Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: mechman48 on November 03, 2015, 07:28:34 AM
Another mystery solved...  :clap:
George.
Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: JD on November 03, 2015, 07:01:38 PM
I will re-visit the museum and see if we can get this curio to make some egg cartons and put up a short movie.
Thanks again to all who chipped in.
JD
Title: Re: Another odd one for you
Post by: Will_D on November 04, 2015, 02:55:11 PM
Bill, you a custard or ice cream man  :drool:

case-hardened custard , every time ;-)
Ah Custard:

A non-newtonian fluid and is described as a-thixotropic