MadModder
The Shop => Tools => Topic started by: andre on December 13, 2010, 04:17:51 AM
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hi guys i purchased an atlas metal shaper and was wondering what you can make on them i bough it for $ 120 is this a good price ??
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Andre,
You pretty well stole that shaper. Usual price is $500-$800 for the small HSM types on average. Sometimes even a lot higher. It's easier to show what a shaper can do if you go to Youtube and type in "metal working shaper" into the search box. Be prepared to spend some time there but I think you'll find it interesting and educational.
Pete
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wow $ 800 i picked it up because people said shapers are so versatile. i need a new belt as the one that was one it was to small so it is only on one speed which i think is two slow as the surface finish i am getting a really rough. http://lh3.ggpht.com/_RpfW1bzPcMM/S97Q1F6QytI/AAAAAAAAAIU/xe8boZSYL_M/Image0189.jpg (http://lh3.ggpht.com/_RpfW1bzPcMM/S97Q1F6QytI/AAAAAAAAAIU/xe8boZSYL_M/Image0189.jpg)
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Thats a good score with that shaper for $120. I paid $450 for my Douglas with spares and that was a great price. A shaper can do almost everything a mill can do only slower. Your surface finish is caused buy the tool grinding, if you have a look around online you will find some good references to tool grinding, the is one from a member here as well.
Dave
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You can make ...
smoke....
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm54/artieonedge/06112010272.jpg)
dovetails....
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm54/artieonedge/25062010484.jpg)
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm54/artieonedge/27062010492.jpg)
its own tool holders.........
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm54/artieonedge/26062010491.jpg)
movies.....
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm54/artieonedge/th_25062010015.jpg) (http://s293.photobucket.com/albums/mm54/artieonedge/?action=view¤t=25062010015.mp4)
It all just takes time..these things arent quick and they wont be rushed.... but they are sooooo beautiful to watch.... :)
Good score mate..hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine....
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i think you are right dave but i look at my tool and it looks like it does in the diagram i have been going off but the ram is going at the second fastest speed which my father says is to fast which is way the finish is so rough the chip doest come off with a nice curl but the finish is rough not smooth.
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Having the shaper going fast will wear out your tool quicker and make things hotter, but should still leave a smooth finish on a light finish cut. Also the shaving should be coming off in little curls if the tool is ground right. Try honing the tool with a stone to get it razor sharp.
Dave
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okay maybe that is what i was doing wrong as i was putting a large radius on the tool so it needs to be sharp a question were does one buy oil stone and good grinding wheels
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Any local tool shop should have or be able to get both of them. Hare and Forbes sell online and will post to you, from memory the 6 inch white wheels for HSS are $25, carbide ones are the same price and the 8 inch ones are around $35.
Dave
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McJings (http://www.mcjing.com.au/) carry a range of grinder wheels and stones. Very quick service.
Carbatec (http://www.carbatec.com.au/sharpening-tools_c270?zenid=9v4t91atdfbv281fpds8lgtvm6) may be worth a try as well even though they mostly sell woodworking stuff (can I say that here?)
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Generate involute gears...
(http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/remark/pages/workshop/gear%20cutting.html) :coffee:
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Further to what Old Biker UK posted,
http://neme-s.org/Shaper%20Books/Michael_Moore/shaper%20gear%20cut.pdf
Lee.
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Cut internal gears, splines, and keyways. Also cut square sharp cornered holes. :proj:
Alan
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This is my very first shaper job. A "D" shaped hole. It came in really handy for this. I have a couple other jobs planned that would be diffacult to do without a shaper.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/Powderkeg3418/Penny%20Farthing/Pennyfarthing023-1.jpg)
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Wes,
I looked at that pic and just couln't get my brain wrapped around how that was done.
Could you please explain to a dummy like me. ::)
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I can think of one way, A rotary table with the part aligned with the tool tip and facing the ram stroke. Do the flat first and then rotate the table.
Pete
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That's Pretty much it. I think there are some more pictures on my Penny Build. That is the very first part that I worked on on my shaper.
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Powder Keg
LOL, Nothing like jumping in with both feet. That's a fairly complicated first part. I own a S/B shaper but I'm planning on a full rebuild before using it in anger.
Pete
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My efforts :D
(http://www.nam-engineering.com/cm/albums/userpics/10002/normal_P1010654.JPG)
(http://www.nam-engineering.com/cm/albums/userpics/10002/normal_P1010662.JPG)
(http://www.nam-engineering.com/cm/albums/userpics/10002/normal_P1010671.JPG)
Shapers Rock :ddb: :ddb: :ddb: well go back and forth allot :lol: :lol:
Rob
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Very nice looking part Rob!
You'r not allowing the shaper much room to stop and turn on the end of the spline there! :bugeye:
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hi thanks for all the suggestions and ideas but i think my first project will be learning how to sharpen tools for it, i can make a cut and the swarf rolls abit then break it doesn't come off in curls like when drilling.should i make all the angles of the tool exact because i am only guesstimating the angles now thanks Andre