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Title: Machine Vice
Post by: PhiberOptix on September 09, 2009, 11:48:12 AM
This is the stage I was at Last night, basic stuff just milled out a large portion and a quick lick with a fly cutter
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/phiberoptix/000_0500.jpg)

todays efforts

milled a slot in the side and center drilled, pilot drilled, and 8mm drilled and couter sunk the holes
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/phiberoptix/000_0502.jpg)
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/phiberoptix/000_0503.jpg)

milled a slot thru the base
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/phiberoptix/000_0504.jpg)
then 5mm slot for running guides for the back jaw

this is as far as i got
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/phiberoptix/000_0506.jpg)
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: Andy on September 09, 2009, 12:02:16 PM
Looking good there.  :headbang:

That's a bit of a chicken and egg situation I suppose - helps if you've got a machine vice in order to make a machine vice. :scratch:
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: Brass_Machine on September 09, 2009, 02:13:22 PM
That is starting to look very nice. Very professional looking. Keep up the build log!

Eric
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: Darren on September 09, 2009, 09:08:40 PM
That's looking good, I'd be very interested to see the next stages... :thumbup:
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: arnoldb on September 10, 2009, 02:13:24 AM
Good going on that vice Andy  :clap:

 :beer:, Arnold
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: NickG on September 10, 2009, 03:38:07 AM
Nice 1! Looks like you have  :proj:

I had one of those sort of vices many moons ago when I had a little sherline milling machine. The vice was brilliant! The machine was really accurate to give it its due but a just for small things! Didn't have a quill feed either which limited it a bit!

Nick
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: PhiberOptix on September 10, 2009, 12:59:27 PM
turning the chamfer on the mushroom ring now need to drill it and part it off
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/phiberoptix/000_0513.jpg)
Fly cut finish on back of rear jaw ready for drilling for locking mechanism
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/phiberoptix/000_0514.jpg)
vice and parts for locking mechanism so far
(needs a longer caphead the biggest i have it too short)
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/phiberoptix/000_0518.jpg)

once I get a longer caphead tomorrow i can give the vice a final fly cut
also thinking of making some alternative jaws in brass and stainless to fix to the existing ones

 
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: NickG on September 10, 2009, 03:05:55 PM
Looks great, I found my vice very accurate and possible to get a high clamping force. good design as it's always pulling the jaw down as well.
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: sorveltaja on September 10, 2009, 03:46:59 PM
Interesting project. Is that aluminum you are working on?



 


Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: PhiberOptix on September 10, 2009, 04:12:26 PM
Interesting project. Is that aluminum you are working on?


Yes its Aluminium (Aircraft grade) It is to be used for Aluminum only until I make some Brass and Stainless Jaws for her
I may even have her anodised

regards
Andy

Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: NickG on September 10, 2009, 04:13:19 PM
Just wondering, how are you going to clamp it down to the table?
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: sorveltaja on September 10, 2009, 04:43:04 PM
Is there spesific english language term for that kind of machine vice? I'm willing to build one(two, maybe three) small(er) versions for special purposes.
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: PhiberOptix on September 10, 2009, 04:51:37 PM
Just wondering, how are you going to clamp it down to the table?

I'm not lol, its going sideways in the vice it was made in

but...

I guess you can put longer pins thu the side holes and clamp down on them
or mill clamping slots in the ends & sides
I have seen blocks with pegs in the side just for clamping these down
but mines going in another vice so you adapt/mod your to you needs

regards
Andy
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: PhiberOptix on September 10, 2009, 05:07:37 PM
Is there spesific english language term for that kind of machine vice? I'm willing to build one(two, maybe three) small(er) versions for special purposes.

I have only ever know them as a machinist's vice I am unaware of any specific name
I'm sure it probably has one I just dont know it, maybe someone could enlighten us

Andy
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: bogstandard on September 10, 2009, 06:07:12 PM
First ones on here

http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Workholding/Machine-Vices

I use a 1" one all the time for holding small stuff in my larger vices.


Bogs
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: NickG on September 10, 2009, 07:04:35 PM
I've seen them called tool makers vices before, think they are all ground, high precision things though.
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: DeereGuy on September 10, 2009, 07:41:22 PM
Andy, nice project you have started there.  I am been kicking around building one also probably this fall when things slow down a bit.  keep up posted with your build..:)
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: PhiberOptix on September 11, 2009, 11:33:50 AM
The starts of a small vice been fly cut
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/phiberoptix/000_0524.jpg)

sorry go carried away and forgot to take pics

All done except the polishing
BIg brother and the little one
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/phiberoptix/000_0526.jpg)
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: PhiberOptix on September 12, 2009, 08:26:51 AM
and after a quick polish the baby of the two vices vice looks like this
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/phiberoptix/000_0537.jpg)
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: Darren on September 12, 2009, 08:28:54 AM
I do like your vices  :lol:

Esp the dinky one as I could do with one of those. I have some bars of cast steel I may have a go with......on top of all the other things I want to do of course....... :doh:
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: sorveltaja on September 12, 2009, 01:44:09 PM
Is there some kind of T-piece, where tightening screw goes?

I have seen that kind of vices only on pictures(http://emoticons4u.com/crazy/1261.gif).
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: Gerhard Olivier on September 12, 2009, 02:01:53 PM
Is there some kind of T-piece, where tightening screw goes?

There is a plan on

http://www.projectsinmetal.com/free-metalworking-project-plans-toolmakers-screwless-vise-mill/

Hope this works / helps

Gerhard
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: PhiberOptix on September 12, 2009, 02:37:16 PM
Is there some kind of T-piece, where tightening screw goes?

I have seen that kind of vices only on pictures(http://emoticons4u.com/crazy/1261.gif).

yes there is a 'T' piece


(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/phiberoptix/000_0538.jpg)
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/phiberoptix/000_0540.jpg)
(http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/phiberoptix/000_0539.jpg)

All I used was a slice of round stock drilled and taped to match the locking cap head
and an off center hole thu the side for the locking pin (in this case a 1mm wire)
also there is a slot milled in the underside of the jaw to locate the slice into
to stop it rotating whilst putting the pin thu

There are plans for this vice but i did not use any

Hope this helps

The same method was used in her bigger sister
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: sorveltaja on September 12, 2009, 03:18:48 PM
Thanks for the replies! They helped me to understand the mechanism :beer:.

Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: arnoldb on September 12, 2009, 05:29:54 PM
Good going Andy  :clap: :clap:
And to think you groaned about Tiny being small  :lol: - come to think of it, have you found a compressor yet ?

 :beer: Arnold
Title: Re: Machine Vice
Post by: PhiberOptix on September 12, 2009, 05:44:00 PM
Good going Andy  :clap: :clap:
And to think you groaned about Tiny being small  :lol: - come to think of it, have you found a compressor yet ?

 :beer: Arnold

Hi Arnold

Small is an understatement - drilling sidways tru a 1/16th wire with a #57 drill bit and then make a pin to go into that hole - god did I need zoom eyeballs for that :lol: had to resort to making a jig in the end.

No havent found one low enough (3-5 psi) I thought about canned air too but rejected that idea when I saw the cost so now going with the 'Build a boiler'
and run her off steam and hopefully the elbow engine too, so so many projects ;)

Andy