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Gallery, Projects and General => Project Logs => Topic started by: bilhar on September 21, 2010, 06:18:41 PM
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I have built a workshop not quite finished, but I am eager to kit it out
so I bought a nearly new crusader deluxe lathe .
Problem is it weighs according to the spec it weighs 450 kg, other then take
chuck and tail-stock off I am reluctant to de-assembly any further. To lighten the weight
So I need to lift the lathe off flat truck cab star. Down 6 meter the long side of the house approx 1.2 meters wide, across 3meters of the patio without breaking the slab then raise it 18 inch on to higher the lawn then across 5 meter of grass. Without damage to the grass as I just regrew it because after whole garden looking building site for a long time while building the workshop. I don't think wife going to best pleased.
So this project will getting the lathe into my workshop
my idea is to build a A frame as I am unable to hire anything suitable. then afterwards turn the A frame into a long metal table for the workshop
pictures to follow
any suggestion gratefully received
(http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww331/bilhar1/workshop/lath.jpg)
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How about an engine hoist? We can rent them around here... maybe you can over there? The only issue I see would be the lawn. Might have to place wood sheets down to give the wheels something to roll on and tear up SWMBOs lawn.
Eric
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Oh... welcome to the collective :borg:
Pictures of the new workshop are a requirement (well not really, but we like em!). Whatcha gonna make in the shop?
Eric
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Hi and congratulations on the new shop!
I have a lathe that is practically identical to the Crusader and I am very satified with it and I am sure you will enjoy yours too when you get it installed.
If it is standing on its stands it will be very top heavy and the machine is heavy enough to do serious damage to itself and to you if it should topple.
Considering where you have to move it I think an engine hoist, in fact anything with wheels, would not be suitable.
In my opinion the very best thing would be to contact your local piano movers who will have men well experienced in carefully carying loads in the sort of places you are talking about. If the piano movers are out of the question you could spend some time at the bar of your local rugby club explaining your problem.
Good luck with the move.
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Thanks for the replies
Yes I will have take it of the stand as its top heavy but it looks an easy job.
the engine hoist would be unsuitable as I will have to to roll it over pato slab and grass also has to fit in side of the house
so this is my idea
build A frame this will enable me to lift it of the truck.
If I hire transport with on board hoist I been quoted 400 pounds then they can only put it on my drive way.
Make the hoist 4 meters long then I shold be able to move it 3 meter at a time then move the a frame. Should work ??
How do I make phots smaller
as to what i going to make they so many inspiring projects and idea on this forum i dont know which one to have a go at first.
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If you have it off the stand, You could just drag it on a piece of ply wood? Or put pipe rollers under the plywood. I've moved stuff that way.
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hi powder keg
yes I will taking the stand off and 90 percent of the move can be done as you say but i have get get it off the lorry
which stand a meter high then i have to raise it roughly 18 inch from the patio to the lawn. then I would need a lot people to help me
knowing the friends i know it will just turn into a party lot of alcohol will be drink next day i will have a hang over with the lathe in the middle of the patio
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Hi,
I have exactly the same lathe as yourself, with the same sort of problems. Actually I have had two, I wasn't happy with the first one, so they had to come back and swap it over.
Both times it was moved with an engine hoist, bit of a pallet and lengths of plywood sheet. There is no easy way around it.
The first time it was installed was by a moving specialist, and took about 3 hours from getting the machine off the back of his truck to actually having it in position in my shop, at a cost of 300 squid (but that included a lot of travelling costs). The second time it was free and Chester UK did the humping, with a lot of advice from myself. Without it, it would still be sitting on their truck, and it took them about 6 hours. The main problems is going up and down steps, and having to dismantle and reassemble the lifting equipment.
The motor can come off to reduce weight, but you need to leave the saddle on to balance the head end.
In all honesty, if you could hire four strapping lads for half an hour, a couple of strops and scaffold bars, it could be off your truck and in your shop in less than five or ten minutes just by manhandling it. As soon as you start to use hoists, trucks, jacks, sheets of wood etc, things get very awkwards, very quickly, and it can take hours.
This is how the chap got my mill into the shop, 4 hours, and most probably only half the distance you have to go.
http://www.homemodelenginemachinist.com/index.php?topic=2314.msg23091#msg23091
He was the one that moved the lathe into the shop, but I didn't get any shots of the progress
http://www.homemodelenginemachinist.com/index.php?topic=2314.msg24991#msg24991
You have a major problem on your hands, all I can suggest is don't bother with the gantry, go manual.
Bogs
Bogs
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Hi bilhar :wave:
Welcome to the collective. :borg:
Here's a thread I wrote about getting my Bridgeport into the basement. Not quite the same, but it may give you some idea's on moving something heavy. http://madmodder.net/index.php?topic=381.0
Good luck getting your lathe set up.
As far as the pictures go, I use the software that comes with my digital camera. It usally has an operation where you can size the picturres. Others use Photobucket and such places to store there pics.
Bernd
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i decided to heed the advice above and abandon the A frame idea. so I ordered engine host from ebay.
use the material instead to build a large table.
below some picture of the workshop i am building 5m X 5m breeze block claded two side with timber
(http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww331/bilhar1/workshop/IMG00373-20100923-1252.jpg)(http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww331/bilhar1/workshop/IMG00372-20100923-1250.jpg)
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Nice workshop you have there.
I'd say you've got some very nice natrual lighting there too. :)
Bernd
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update with the break in the weather i managed to move the lathe and the milling machine now all i need is ideas to make something looking forward to this year
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Those cupboards are great. Are they suspended from a track above or just the side runners?
Id like to make something like that when the time comes this year.
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just the sides the rails are 120kg capacity ballbearing can be moved with one finger the ones on the ground have 50 mill wheels but they need both hands to move