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Title: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 03, 2015, 02:36:19 PM
I decided that this spring I wanted to build a second Pig Sty - or rather Pig Palace as it's construction is rather OTT.

Decided where to put it, got builders in to quote, then wasted weeks waiting for a date that they could start. Then eventually decided I may as well get on with it myself - if I could find a half decent brickie it should fly up once I'd done the ground works.

So this is what I'm replicating - originally built using materials left over from another project, it's a pig yard 6 metres square with a sty in one corner and brick pillar and scaffold pole containment.

Should be able to get it done before the complications of lambing start  :scratch:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 03, 2015, 02:40:52 PM
So first of all I needed to intercept the existing surface water drain that runs to the stream from the current pig sty, and trench up to the new location, lay the drain and back fill so the roadway is passable where it runs
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 03, 2015, 02:46:12 PM
Then having backfilled the trench I could start excavating 14 cubic Metres of farm yard to place the slab. The ground rises so I had to remove a wedge of yard and the upper sty wall will act as a retainer when the yard is reinstated. There will be a perforated land drain at it's base leading to a branch of the drain in the pictures above.

The new sty will be 6 metre by 4 metre yard, so slightly smaller than the original
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 03, 2015, 02:50:19 PM
Then I set the form work up (new scaffold boards sprayed with diesel to stop the concrete sticking) and could set the 'Aco' storm drain channel in place on concrete haunching prior to laying the main slab.

There are reinforcing bars pushed under the Aco to join the two parts of the slab
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 03, 2015, 02:53:10 PM
Then I needed to set the reinforcing mesh in place to get ready for the big concrete pouring day
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 03, 2015, 03:03:08 PM
Now even with a spinning laser level I find it hard to get a surface like this truly uniform - it's not level as there is a 50 mm slope from one side to the other. The form work was spot on to the nearest mm but precisely how much the thickness deviated from the nominal 200 mm was not certain. The volume was a nominal 4.4 cu M.

Buying readymix concrete poses a few problems. A full lorry load is either 6 or 8 cu M. Order less than a full mix and you pay a surcharge for the empty space, and if you get your estimate wrong you either have an embarrassing shortfall or you have a heap of the stuff to dispose of  :bugeye:

So I tracked down a magic 'mix on site' lorry that uses a worm screw to mix, and has hoppers for cement, sand and aggregate.  They deliver exactly what you need with no fuss, and the price is very similar to ready mix so long as you take more than 4 cu M
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 03, 2015, 03:08:20 PM
So the lady driver / operator turned up on the allotted day and squirted 4.8 cu M of concrete which went down a treat.

After a day or two I drilled and chemically anchored 20 mm rebar vertically where the pillars will be - superb stuff the chemical anchor gunge. Sets rock hard even allowing me to bend one or two of the bars that had come to rest not quite vertical
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 03, 2015, 03:12:00 PM
OK now I'm ready for Brian the Brickie. Brian is semi retired - nice chap but not the neatest worker I've met. So far he's done a day and a half and I'm waiting for his return when the weather is suitable

Those stacked bricks I bumped out waiting for his return hopefully in a day or two
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 03, 2015, 04:02:04 PM
So of course with all the time delays involved the lambing season overtook me  :bugeye:

We have an ex Chinese army inflatable field hospital tent that we've used for probably fives seasons so far as a 'lambing shed'. It's about 10 metres by 7 metres. We put it up in the orchard so close to the house, and bring the Ewes into the orchard when their time is close. So this year we got it set up in good times, and set out the berthing cubicles all ready for them well ahead of time (got caught out last year and had a bit of a panic!)

 
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 03, 2015, 04:07:23 PM
Now I've learnt from previous years to fix this tent down well. Instead of the 1/2" 18" long tent pegs, the main guys at the four corners and two gable ends are lashed down to 4'6" long chestnut fence posts driven well into the ground at 45 degrees to allow a bit of tension to be applied.

On time the first Ewe presented us with a pair of ram lambs
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 03, 2015, 04:15:59 PM
Nicely tucked away in the 'delivery ward' we went to bed thinking all was well. In the night the wife woke me worried about the strength of the wind - certainly is sounded a good gale force.

So 3 am found us wrestling with a tent that had pretty well completely deflated encompassing Ewe and Lambs in a flapping shroud, while the wind drove rain horizontal - not a nice situation. I started up the '140 cfm road compressor' that we inflate it with, but the punctures were too large to make any progress. We managed to get her reasonably secure in one remaining corner, lashing the rest  of the canvas down any which way to prevent it taking off like a hang glider  :bugeye:

We crawled back  to bed and I spent the little remaining dark hours wondering what the heck I was going to do with the other Ewes and lambs as they popped out.

I think that what had happened was an inflated tube had chaffed against a sheep hurdle, puncturing it, and then progressively more and more got holed as it collapsed onto the other hurdles.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 03, 2015, 04:27:01 PM
The Ewe and her lambs survived the night.
 
What to do :scratch:

Lots of possibilities came to mind but none could happen fast enough. The only practical solution was to clear out a lean too that I  have on the side of my workshop.  It held 10 'jumbo bags' of dry logs, fork lift truck, concrete mixer, vibrating road roller and all the sort of junk that gets piled into places. A good days work saw it cleared out and stalls set up ready for the next birth, and the tent dismantled and packed away until there is time to see if it is repairable.

Unfortunately this now means that each time we have a new birth (9 so far, 27 to go if the scanning is accurate) I have to take a tractor and stock trailer across two fields to collect her and probably return an earlier birth to the orchard to make room for the next patient - and as the ground is still VERY soft this is churning up the fields rather badly.

Spent today stacking the logs in the wood store so at least they are out of the way  :thumbup:

 :bang: So not much workshop time  :bang:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: hermetic on April 03, 2015, 06:11:09 PM
bad luck with the tent andrew, i feel for you. and that is definitely a farm run by an engineer! Some of the farms I used to work on installing dryers and electrical equipment were hell holes. I love those detached Maison de Cochon!!
Phil
East Yorkshire
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: vtsteam on April 03, 2015, 08:51:10 PM
 You've been a busy man, Andrew!  :bugeye: :bugeye: :bugeye:  :beer:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: Ginger Nut on April 04, 2015, 01:13:02 AM
I bet your shed looks a real Pig Stye  :lol:

Nice job soon you'll have fresh rashers n crackling

Lamb's too  :bow: not sure how you fathered that one  :clap: Will you end up with a woolly jumper from the fleece?
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: RobWilson on April 04, 2015, 04:01:24 AM
 :bugeye: Bloody hell Andrew ! , thats a lot of graft mate  :bow: 


Rob



 
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: mattinker on April 04, 2015, 06:51:17 AM
Good luck with the lambing! It look like your going to have to build a lambing shed before next year!!

All the best, Matthew.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: vtsteam on April 04, 2015, 09:59:36 AM
Andrew, forgive me but I woke up this morning with this image in my head of your tale here and the story of the 3 pigs........

I like the bricks option.....  :palm:  :bang:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 04, 2015, 11:35:19 AM
Thanks all for your thoughts.

It's currently a case of geography - things are in the wrong place! We're thinking of trying to create a sheltered place for the sheep closer to the barn for next year but it depends on a hedge we planted growing fast enough!  Some of you will remember the huge pile of earth I shifted a year or two back, with the 'gate to nowhere' left isolated - well it's been incorporated into a double fence line and planted with native species to give the sheep cover in the future, but it's really only just starting to grow - I doubt it'll be ready in time for next year. May need to invest in some windbreak fine netting and make a corner of the field their haven.

Still, looking on the bright side, Brian the Brickie turned up again today (Saturday) so the Pig Palace is progressing, and he'll be back Easter Monday to get a bit more done.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 04, 2015, 03:55:38 PM
So today brought Brian the Brickie back to the farm, and also a clutch of new lambs. The score so far is thirteen survivors and one still born. Only another twenty three to go  :bugeye:

Progress on the new Pig Palace is 'reasonable' - second pallet of bricks bumped out, so that's 1000 either laid or stacked in 'ready to lay' piles. He's returning Bank Holiday Monday, so hopefully I'll see a bit more progress then.

The visitors have started to arrive to see the new born lambs, which is nice but very time consuming. Oddly none of them accept the offer of working the night shift - can't understand for a minute why ever not  :lol:

Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: Zadig on April 06, 2015, 06:11:26 AM
Andrew, let me know when you will be taking bookings for paying guests, I'd like to reserve the first two weeks in August!

Looks fantastic.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 06, 2015, 08:04:17 AM


.... well we do have two holiday cottages on the farm :

http://www.cottages4you.co.uk/cottages/lower-marley-farm-apple-cottage-27442

And there are a couple of newly cleaned out bays in the emergency lambing shed that have nice clean straw at the moment ......  :lol:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 06, 2015, 12:13:47 PM
Well Easter Monday and Brian the Brickie has been back and put in another days work, while Penny and I have been sheep wrangling
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 07, 2015, 03:19:01 PM
Today I screeded the floor of the actual sty. This has two advantages - firstly rain water tends to stay outside, and secondly, as I've sloped it outwards, if the sow's caught short in the night it'll all run outwards  :ddb:

Only five mixer loads of screed   :bugeye:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: Zadig on April 07, 2015, 03:38:30 PM
...as I've sloped it outwards, is the sow's caught short in the night it'll all run outwards.

Definitely sounds like my kind of place!
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: Pete. on April 07, 2015, 04:51:56 PM
Great, so now when i tell my daughter her room looks like a pig sty she's going to take it as a compliment :)
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 12, 2015, 04:06:36 PM
Well another weekend has come and gone which brought Brian the Brickie here for a day and a half with some commensurate progress. That's 1500 bricks bumped out, and my body is telling me the details of every one  :bugeye:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: Pete. on April 12, 2015, 04:24:02 PM
That's a posh piggy palace!

How do the pigs like the concrete? Don't they miss being able to root about in mud and generally turn the ground to mush?
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 12, 2015, 05:24:17 PM
We used to raise pigs on earth on that very spot before we built the first sty and yard, but it became totally untenable over winter.

Not only was it so soft they could easily circumvent the fencing as they worked it loose, also keeping the sleeping quarters viable was impossible - we are on a very soft bit of low lying ground. I do also have two earth pig runs elsewhere but we rarely use them now as the pigs don't seem to have an issue not wallowing. They get the occasional turf to keep the mineral input up, and a hose spray in hot weather.

If you consider that virtually every cottagers sty was either cobbled or concrete it's not a new thing.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: Pete W. on April 13, 2015, 08:17:58 AM
Hi there, Andrew,

I hope that you and yours are all well.

The new pig palace is looking good.

What's the latest lambing score? 
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 13, 2015, 08:24:15 AM
Hi there, Andrew,

I hope that you and yours are all well.

The new pig palace is looking good.

What's the latest lambing score?

Hi Pete, yes it's coming along nicely but rather slowly - I made the roof trusses this morning - I'll post pictures later.

As for the lambing, a single and a twin Jacobs this morning brings the score up to 26 so far. Just the tail end charlies now - expecting 35. It was to have been 36, but one was scanned as a twin, actually produced triplets, one was still born and another didn't survive the night, but the surviving one is quite sturdy for a triplet.

Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 13, 2015, 11:30:29 AM
So as mentioned above I made the four simple trusses for the sty roof this morning. Usual crude building woodwork fixed with nail plates. I think that they're identical to the ones I made a few years back for the first sty - but as there's a 'ceiling' of 20 mm shuttering ply with 200 mm of rockwool insulation above I cannot actually see anything other than the lower few inches of them. The brickie builds the gable ends to the shape of the outer trusses, so they're needed before that bit of brickwork is done.

I doubt Brian the Brickie will  be ready for them next weekend when he comes, but at least the pressure is off as they are ready and waiting, conveniently stacked across my Ifor Williams trailer.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 16, 2015, 01:34:34 PM
Well a bonus day today (Thursday) as Brian the Brickie was unexpectedly able to give me another day laying bricks.

Incidentally, these bricks are all rejects from the local brick yard, and a fellow buys them as hard core, and has his wife and daughters sort out what is vaguely acceptable to lay, and pallatise them. They give a rustic charm :)
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: Zadig on April 17, 2015, 04:02:24 PM
Just been watching Lord Emsworth extolling the virtues of Whiffle - reminded me of you.

You're making a lovely job Andrew, it's a pleasure to watch the progress.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: NormanV on April 17, 2015, 06:49:18 PM
Andrew, your talking of trusses reminds me of my first house that I built in Kenya (no building regulations). We made the first truss from 6x2s and as we tried to raise it up onto the top of the two storey building it slipped and crashed to the ground. amazingly no one was hurt and the truss was not damaged. We built the rest of the roof with 4x2s. the house is still standing.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 19, 2015, 04:31:21 PM
Thanks Zadig & Norman - I must admit to thinking occasionally about Lord Emsworth while I'm tickling the sows ear at feeding time  :lol:

So another week end and a bit more progress - Brian could only put in 3 hours on Saturday but made up for it on Sunday working a straigt 10 hours.

The wall plates are now ready for the trusses, but all the pillars need filling with concrete before that happens, and two of them are not up to height yet
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 21, 2015, 09:32:26 AM
My eldest son came to visit today, so I took the opportunity to get him to help fitting the trusses. I'd thought that they'd obstruct the pillar tops thus preventing me filling them with concrete, but in practice they don't. Construction is rather unconventional, in that I've laid a 'ceiling' of 20 mm shuttering ply from wall plate to wall plate, then set the trusses on top of the ply, as fixing a ceiling after the trusses are in would be very difficult in such a cramped place.

It was while measuring up to cut the ply we realised that Brian the Brickie had set the lintel in the wrong place - it was 4 1/2" too far forwards. So I chopped it out, and there is still access to re-set it even with ceiling and trusses in place. He's back this evening to finish the pillars, so he can re-set it then.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: RotarySMP on April 21, 2015, 09:56:59 AM
Those photos have been photoshopped. I have been to england a few times, and there has never been weather like that.

Nice job on the pig sty. You do realise that this will be put under historic place trust protection in about 12 years, and turned into a trendie pub sometime in the 2070s
Mark
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: vtsteam on April 21, 2015, 10:00:23 AM
They really look nice Andrew. An asset to the property.  :thumbup: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 21, 2015, 10:01:49 AM
Those photos have been photoshopped. I have been to england a few times, and there has never been weather like that.

Nice job on the pig sty. You do realise that this will be put under historic place trust protection in about 12 years, and turned into a trendie pub sometime in the 2070s
Mark

Thanks Mark - no photoshopping here  :lol:

We've been having an unseasonably dry few weeks - good in that the building work can proceed unhindered, but bad in that we are getting desperately short of grass for the sheep. Now it's warmed up a bit it should be growing rampantly, but as it's so dry it isn't  :(
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 21, 2015, 10:05:06 AM
They really look nice Andrew. An asset to the property.  :thumbup: :clap: :clap:

Thanks Steve. I decided early on that it all needed to look slightly OTT as it's amazing what an interest our guests in the cottages have in the animals around the farm. But I doubt that I can get away with the building costs offset against cottage tax, so the price of pork will have to rise  :lol:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 21, 2015, 03:23:39 PM
So as promised Brian the Brickie popped in for a couple of hours this evening to bring the pillars up to a height that I can fill them with concrete (hopefully tomorrow) He also re-set that lintel that I had to move.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 22, 2015, 06:04:18 AM
I spent a couple of hours before breakfast knocking up some strong fine concrete and filled the pillars. Used a cut off sheep feed sack as a funnel to avoid putting cement marks down the outside. Took a remarkable amount by the time it was tamped down and fully compacted - 10 cubic foot by my calculations.

..it'll give someone a surprise if they reverse into it, and I don't think that the pigs will knock them over  :lol:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: RotarySMP on April 22, 2015, 09:34:55 AM
When renovating my house, I moved a couple of door frames. Not knowing that these days they are just foamed in, I filled the frames with cement mortar. Amazing how much you can get in a seeming small space if you don't bother calculating the volume.
Mark
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 25, 2015, 02:29:59 PM
Brian the Brickie returned today (Saturday) and put in another 10 hour stint. He's got the majority of the front gable end up and (for some inexplicable reason) done a bit on the rear gable.

He can't manage tomorrow as he has a meeting of the local crown green bowls club, and being chairman has to be there :( He's suggesting he'll be able to be back Tuesday or Wednesday, but the weather is breaking so that might well stop him - still quite a bit of progress today.He's motivated to finish it, as I've told him he can't borrow my digger until this job is finished  :lol:

Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 28, 2015, 01:33:03 PM
So today as Brian the Brickie hadn't turned up by 08:30 I decided he wasn't coming, and I'd get on with the surface / land drain run, and water supply, which entailed hand trenching up the side of the slab, and connecting to the 'Y' point I'd previously installed when I put the 'Aco' storm drain within the pig enclosure. Hand trenching as it's too tight to get the digger in.

I'd done the first couple of metres by 9:05 and of course Brian turned up - my trenching cutting him off from where he'd been working  :bang: So we agreed that he'd continue on the rear gable while I got the drains in.

Solid pipe up to the corner of the sty, and perforated land drain in pea shingle across the end. As I wanted a rodding point at the corner I decided to incorporate a 'back entry gully' that I had left over from previous works, and place it under where the tap will be on the corner pillar. I just had to buy an 'extender' to bring it up to finished ground level (not yet in the pictures.) *** edit actually you can just see it sitting upside down on the pillar !!!!!!!
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 28, 2015, 01:37:16 PM
Brian got the rear gable up to the first layer of corbelling, and put the second corbel on the front gable.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 28, 2015, 01:56:57 PM
Today I let Brian persuade me to sell him my Kubota K008 3/4 ton digger. He needs a small one to fit through a door for a job he has coming up, and I need a bigger one, but not as big as the JCB 3CX 14 tonner that I reluctantly parted with last year.

I've located a JCB 803 and committed to buying it - this is a 3 ton machine that should hopefully fit my needs and not be too much of a dog when I see it in the flesh - bought blind from a dealer 300 miles away  :bugeye:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: vtsteam on April 28, 2015, 09:29:57 PM
Green stuff above the track looks like it might have been sitting for a long while -- unless that's fresh, hard to tell in a photo. I forsee some madmodder projectdom in the future!  :thumbup:  :beer:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 29, 2015, 10:12:20 AM
It probably has sat for a while Steve. It's in transit as I type - chap left Manchester 14:30 so it will be quite late when he arrives - must be a 6 hour journey at least.

I decided having laid the land drain etc to start back filling up to the walls in road planings that I'd saved when I excavated for the slab. First I had to fit the 'drain riser', then the gate to see where things need to end up
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 29, 2015, 10:17:27 AM
Due to the rising ground I had to scoop out an undesirably large amount to allow the gate to fully open. In the long run I need to re-sculpt the trackway as at the moment it has lumps and bumps in a rather uneven fashion. I should (when the bigger digger arrives) be able to take it all down 10" and put 6" of planing back as a surface - currently the underlying clay is poking through in places  :bugeye:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: vtsteam on April 29, 2015, 10:24:26 AM
Well the blade will be handy! It's an excavator. :thumbup:
Does it have a smaller bucket?
project: add a thumb?
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 29, 2015, 10:31:51 AM
Steve as supplied it has a grading bucket which I'd expect to be 4 or 5 foot wide, and an 18" digging bucket - I'll need to source a 9" bucket for land drain trenching. Lucky old Brian is going to get 6 or so buckets with the Kubota as I'd been collecting them  :ddb:

Sadly unlike you we have few trees on the farm, so the suggested thumb probably isn't warranted, although they are useful for picking up any long thin things I suppose.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: vtsteam on April 29, 2015, 11:11:49 AM
Ah yes, only trees here, and glacial til -- plenty of rocks to move as well. A thumb would be great here.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: Pete. on April 29, 2015, 04:44:18 PM
I've located a JCB 803 and committed to buying it - this is a 3 ton machine that should hopefully fit my needs and not be too much of a dog when I see it in the flesh - bought blind from a dealer 300 miles away  :bugeye:

I'd be very careful with that if I were you it looks like they put the top on backards :D
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 29, 2015, 05:30:46 PM
It's just arrived (9 pm) and an initial impression is it's better than I'd expected - the cold light of dawn will probably reveal a few issues  :thumbup:

BTW Steve, the green you saw (I think) was grass showing through the 'track droop' from the verge behind.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: Pete W. on April 30, 2015, 04:05:30 AM
Wow, Andrew,

It covered those 300 miles in double-quick time!!!  I hope the ferry pilot had goggles!!   :lol:   :ddb:   :lol:   :ddb:   :lol:   :ddb: 
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 30, 2015, 06:16:17 AM
Hi Pete - the delivery chap was a very nice helpful fellow, who having dropped my digger off left here about 10 pm to go into central London and pick up another one - not my idea of a relaxing life !

Toll so far on my JCB 803 is I need the following:

2 off Bonnet Gas Struts
1 off Door catch
1 off Dipper control handle
1 off Dipper control handle gaiter

And I need to take a sledge hammer to the front dozer blade and bend the skin back where it is peeling from the frame, then weld it. All pretty trivial really for a 1997 machine. No doubt other things will crop up along the way.

 :Doh:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 30, 2015, 03:32:37 PM
So Brian turned up bright and early this morning and by 5 pm had FINISHED the gable ends  :clap:

During the day I mended the track expanding / contracting lever on the little Kubota - just a bit of welding - it had broken off maybe 5 years ago and had been sitting at the back of my bench all that time - as I never needed to squeeze it though narrow door ways I never had got round to mending it  :bang:

Slight complications during the day -  at long last after a 10 day pause, one of the three Ewes that hadn't produced but that are expecting went  into labour at 14:30. It was important that we were on the ball with this birth (she was expecting twins) as one of the previously born lambs had been 'stealing' milk off her. Now the first milk out is 'colostrum' which it's vital the new born gets as the first feed to line it's stomach and give it all sorts of protection that it would otherwise lack. First twin was born at 17:15 and the second at 18:30, so a fair amount of hanging about ready to pounce with a bottle of commercial colostrum.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on April 30, 2015, 03:50:53 PM
With all the hanging about I thought I'd move the new digger up onto the concrete slab outside my workshop so I could attend to a few minor issues - no problem up the ramp she goes, and I park her up. Then I get called to attend to other things. When I come back there is a massive oil slick spreading from the machine and apparently emanating from the right hand track motor or it's pipework  :bugeye:

Quick call to the seller, who was not dismissive, but not entirely committed to taking responsibility. Then it occurred to me - I'd paid a 50%  deposit, balance due on delivery, and I made an online payment to him for this - but the bank delayed the payment until Friday for 'security checks' so the money hadn't yet left my account.

OK not something I like to do, but a quick call to the bank stopped the payment going out, and I'm sure our next conversation will entail far more co-operation on his behalf  :ddb:

He wants me to start stripping out the undercarriage round the track motor to inspect - normally not an issue, but currently I have a roof to batten and tile by Saturday, and also be able to drop  things in a hurry when any more sheep issue arise. I'll not welch on the deal long term, but he will pick up the ticket for this repair  :clap:

Meanwhile I got the barge boards cut and fixed (too dark for pictures) and tomorrow it's a case of rock wool insulation in the ceiling, followed by breathable membrane and battens, and hopefully tiles on the pig sty roof tomorrow

Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: hermetic on April 30, 2015, 05:39:45 PM
Bad luck with the digger andrew, hope you get it fixed ok, Last time I saw one doing that it was a newish JCB 3C with an oil slick running all down a driveway. I asked the guy if he had burst a hose, "no such luck" he replied, some thieving toe rags had been on the site over the weekend and stripped off and nicked the Hydraulic pump!
Good Luck with it.
Phil
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: vtsteam on April 30, 2015, 09:45:26 PM
I'm sure you'll have it figured out and fixed Andrew,and glad you stopped payment until you're sure of the problem.

Having without realizing the problems, bought the Ford 850 with the blown head gasket and warped head, and two buckets and arms that didn't fit, and suposedly knowing better than that, I definitely know the feeling!

However, now happy I own it now.  :beer:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: PekkaNF on May 01, 2015, 04:52:14 AM
I have reading in awe how punctual yor briclayer is. When I was a kid I saw three building sites that bricklayers come and wen as they pleased....visits were sometimes three weeks appart and sometimes they made other work wait or screw it up somehow. You are in luck.

I hope you'll get that digger sorted out. I knw how it feels when you don't need any extra complications.

OT: can I share a day I had two days ago?

Went work, we are swamped and big bosses have big ideas but in the end of day all that excel and ppt burlup is load of organic waste dumped on us. Anyway there was three projects I had to work with and I went trough few outstanding items, one of them no-one come to think and it could become a show stopper later on, communicated it forward and totaly ruined someones day. Two other were cocups on in a minor manner.

Left the work and started my car, rpm needle sprung to normal iddle and when I started driving dropped to zero, engine was running ok, somewhat sluggish. Odd, I was thinkking. MIL-light come on after few kilometers. Drove home, read error codes and it indicated p0335 crank sensor "A" problem. Hmm.

My wife dropped a knife on the oven glass door. The glass shattered.

It has been raingin three days. I found a tablespoon of water on the bedroom floor. I was happy it was on the middle and not leaked into walls....checked the roof. no holes.

Next day I tried to contact three shops, no help. I'm bit busy and I wanted someone professional to have a look on it. I ended up buying the sensor and changing it mysef. Still womits the same code. Opend and cleaned few connectors and now it running fime.

Arrgh. I know minor stuf, but it felt big at that time.

Pekka
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on May 01, 2015, 12:47:39 PM
Thanks chaps for your thoughts, and Pekka, that wasn't Friday 13th by any chance ?

Well today with the gables finished I could crack on with the roof. First put in the rockwool insulation, then experienced the joy of fitting the breathable membrane single handed in a light breeze  :bugeye: then battened both faces and started tiling.

That's about half the tiles fitted, and I've crawled home to swallow the whole Ibuprofen packet so hopefully my body can bend again  :bugeye:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: Will_D on May 01, 2015, 05:54:59 PM
Love this thread :beer:

Them bacons are sure going to taste sweet after their cosetted like in a "5-star-sty"
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: vtsteam on May 01, 2015, 07:33:54 PM
Andrew, do you have pigs for the new house already?
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on May 02, 2015, 02:03:59 AM
Steve yes I've pigs ready to be rehoused!

We originally had a pig run that was earth and just mesh fenced, and they were everlastingly getting out. It had a conventional corrugated pig arc as housing. Then I tried electric fence to keep them off the mesh, but growth foliage kept defeating it. So I cut a panel out of a 20 foot square open tank and welded a gate on in it's place which certainly keeps them in but they are rather out of the way hence building the first Pig Palace.

Blossom the sow presented me with 6 offspring and when they need weaning they went in the tank. So the idea is that Blossom goes in the new place and her weaners go where she has been.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: Pete W. on May 02, 2015, 06:17:17 AM
Hi there, Andrew,

They're looking for the culprit who did this:

(http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o770/Pete_W73/Humour/Image00001_zpsjqseoyhb.jpg) (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/Pete_W73/media/Humour/Image00001_zpsjqseoyhb.jpg.html)

Can you give Brian a good alibi!   :lol:   :ddb:   :lol:   :ddb:   :lol:   :ddb: 
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on May 02, 2015, 10:17:00 AM
Well Pete 'where is Brian?' is actually a very good question - he was supposed to be here at lunchtime to do the pillar tops and roof ridge and verges, but there's no sign of him  :bang:

I made an early start to finish off the tiling ready for him, and as I got to the last few rows realised I was going to be one "tile & a half" short - I have literally hundreds of the plain tiles but must have miscounted those. Fortunately my local supplier was open on a Saturday morning, so I made a quick dash off site to collect. These are the slightly darker coloured alternate tiles at the verges, and are obviously made to metric standards, as the recycled plain tiles hang 1/4" lower on the battens.

So assuming Brian eventually re-surfaces and finishes his part of the job, all I have to do apart from a major tidy up is plumb in the water trough and an outside bibcock.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: Spurry on May 02, 2015, 03:01:39 PM
Andrew
This has been a very interesting thread, so sorry for the silly question, but how is the new palace ever cleaned out? Or, are you on very friendly terms with Snow White?
Pete
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on May 02, 2015, 03:14:56 PM
Well Pete it will be treated exactly like the current one. Every morning at 7 am I sweep up the pig poo and shovel it into a wheel barrow conveniently placed behind the enclosure, sweep any still good straw back into the sty while they are eating the food I've just dished up. And every few days I rake out the sleeping quarters and install fresh straw.

In the tank I mentioned the base is very rough concrete and a swine (!) to sweep out, whereas the Pig Palaces have smooth concrete and it's an absolute doddle.

Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: Spurry on May 02, 2015, 05:50:58 PM
Andrew
I had to ask, as our current abode was an old pig farm, and the two remaining pig sheds have 6ft high doors, as well as smooth concrete floors, so it would have been an easy task, I assume, to clean them out. Even two of the old pig barns we demolished had single sloping roofs about 12ft on the higher side and were at least 6ft on the lower eaves.
Keep up the good work.
Pete
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on May 02, 2015, 06:02:07 PM
Pete that sounds like a proper commercial finishing unit where the poor things stay indoors all the time. Although ours are certainly not pets, and are raised for food, we are just small time and enjoy having the animals in nice surroundings. They also offer an interest and entertainment to our guests in our holiday cottages
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: lordedmond on May 03, 2015, 06:13:32 AM
Yep Andrew it a easy job if the roof is high enough.

My grandad used to keep three gilts collect the swill from the nearby houses boil it up ( you had to have a licence to do it) the police would come round to check out things .

Two problems I have had with sows  first one sows back was two inches higher than my crutch I must have been about ten the darned thing ran between my legs there I was riding the pig backwards around the sty , as you know it's not good to be on the floor with pigs around.

Second at the iron works farm ( yes we looked after the electricity for them ) ask the farmer is the sow locked up yes he says now this is a 20 stone plus monster , I am up the ladder pigs out chopping on the rungs of the ladder  I was not impressed.

My grandads brother was a farmer so as a youngster I spent a lot of time on the farm with most type of farm animals learnt to drive on a Fordson major tractor . H and S you say never hear of them open flat belts flapping all ove the place no guards machines repaired with binder twine . Give you a idea of when we had a reaper that had been converted from horse drawn to tractor . Then the pink thrashing drum turned up more flat belts and boiling over tractor
Great days I really enjoyed the time spent down on the farm

I commend you on the way you treat your animals it's a credit to you , ok they are for food but they have a good life while you have them , don't eat meat but that's my thing

Stuart
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on May 03, 2015, 09:55:34 AM
I've not had bad tempered boars or sows I'm pleased to say - and although I say it myself I think it's down to the way you treat them. A few years back I had two sows, Martha and Margaret. Both were amiable, if anything Margaret was better tempered than her sister. So when the friend of a friend wanted to buy one he had Margaret. Within six months I heard he'd shot her as she was so bad tempered. However he had kept her indoors, never socialised, and I heard that he'd been kicking her to move her. What did he expect  :bang:

I kept Martha for years, she presented me with several litters, and I only ended her time when she miss-carried and became infertile. She was tractable and like Blossom my current sow, enjoyed having her ears tickled and on a hot day lying down on her back and letting me spray her with the hose.

Even Robert, the boar I borrow, who is absolutely enormous and has big scary tusks likes his tummy scratched  :clap:

Before Robert I used to use Moe, also rather large - here he is with Martha doing what comes naturally :

Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on May 03, 2015, 10:35:43 AM
Rainy today so no brick-laying  :(

As a consequence of the rain one of the #10 lambs got rather cold - this is one of twins - he and his brother are out in the field, but this one (#10b) is being 'topped up' with a bottle as he's rather small.

To warm him up the dogs invited him in to lay by the fire in our 'snug'  :lol:

(that knitted jumper was for a puppy sometime ago but it's been applied to #10b who we are now calling Jacob due to his multi coloured coat - amazingly his mother still recognized him when he was returned to the field still in the jumper!)
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: DMIOM on May 03, 2015, 12:49:24 PM
.....To warm him up the dogs invited him in to lay by the fire in our 'snug' .....
(that knitted jumper was for a puppy sometime ago but it's been applied to #10b who we are now calling Jacob due to his multi coloured coat - amazingly his mother still recognized him when he was returned to the field still in the jumper!)

Surprised the ewe didn't take against the smell of the dogs !
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on May 03, 2015, 01:11:26 PM
Our dogs and the sheep are well acquainted - the dogs walk through the flock twice a day unleashed, and will often rub noses with them through a gate  :scratch:

Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on May 04, 2015, 02:32:57 PM
Bank Holiday Monday brought Brian back for another long 10 hour stint that has I think FINISHED the brickwork  :ddb:

He's capped the pillars, pointed up the verges, and fitted the ridge tiles - just got all his access equipment and mixer to collect later in the week.

So weather permitting (heavy rain forecast for tomorrow), I'll tidy up all his 'stuff', and fit the water trough and outside tap. A quick count up tells me that this is the 28th outside tap that we have  :bugeye:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: Zadig on May 19, 2015, 02:20:30 AM
Your pig houses look really nice Andrew, you've a fantastic eye for what looks good. They look like they will be there for some time no matter who "huffs and puffs". I dare say in 100 years time they will look at them and say - "They don't build them like that anymore".
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on May 19, 2015, 03:49:07 AM
Well thankee kindly sir  :wave:

The tenants have now moved into the new build, so 'Blossom the Sow' has taken up residence in the new pig sty, and her three daughters have taken over her previous accommodation. This leaves her three sons still in the old water cistern and allows me to differentially feed them, as the boars will be first to go on a one way trip.

Photo's rather dark as the sun hadn't crept round to this point when I was mucking out this morning.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: vtsteam on May 19, 2015, 08:26:09 AM
They look great Andrew! :bow: :bow: :bow: :clap:

Any plans for workshop projects, or still too many chores outside?

I haven't yet planted our garden  :palm: .
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on May 19, 2015, 10:02:34 AM
Just tinkering at the moment Steve as I'm loath to launch myself into anything too time consuming - we're still bottle feeding lambs three times a day which is taking a surprising large amount of my time.

Well the next big issue is getting the JCB 803 into decent fettle as I need it to do a bit of tidying up around the place. Went to see it today where it's being fixed up for me. Chap has managed to do a splendid job on the dozer blade welding it back together as it's a sort of double skin affair and the outer skin had peeled back. The hydraulic rotary coupling is out and dismantled and awaiting a seal kit from JCB - when that's refitted and he can move it, all the lower frame and hydraulics are going to be steam cleaned so he can see where the other leak is coming from. 

Youngest Daughter's wedding is getting ominously close (July 25th), and before then the place needs making presentable - reception is here for 260 guests  :bugeye: with marquee's and hog roasts and all sorts of fandangles. Actual wedding is in Battle Abbey (of 1066 fame) which is only 2 miles away. One of the tasks is another 100 metre length of double fencing to go in ready for native species hedge  to be planted in November, as the fence will delineate 'entertainment' from 'camping' areas for the reception.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Abbey
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: vtsteam on May 19, 2015, 10:08:34 AM
Uhhhhh, sounds like you're busy, then!!!  :beer:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: PekkaNF on July 20, 2015, 04:47:43 PM
Where are these guys when you need one?

     



Pekka
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: vtsteam on July 20, 2015, 05:16:54 PM
Let me guess.......he's getting paid for piece work... he's 21,,,,,,and his girlfriend just texted him something about after work.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: Pete. on July 21, 2015, 01:25:05 AM
I doubt his back will be up to anything after he's done that all day. Those block pavers are much heavier than bricks :)
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: PekkaNF on July 21, 2015, 11:22:40 AM
I doubt his back will be up to anything after he's done that all day. Those block pavers are much heavier than bricks :)

Tell me about it. I had square ones, about three bricks size on that video. I started firs carraying four of them at a time, then three, then two and pretty soon I was huffing and puffing while carying one at the time and then putting it right plase, often helpping with a rubber mallet and checkking the line was straight after each row, because if I found that it went like serpent, birds would have fallen off the hedge and ear plug sales would have soared on this neigbourhood.

I looked that clip on disbelief and wondered how long he would keep the speed up. Pretty damn impressive.

Pekka
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: Will_D on July 22, 2015, 04:07:13 AM
You really need one of these:


Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on July 22, 2015, 05:07:06 AM
Many small local urban roads in Holland have paviers rather than tarmac, so worth developing a machine like that I'd imagine.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: Pete W. on August 14, 2015, 10:40:41 AM
Hi there, Andrew,

Has the weather in your area lived up to the forecast? 
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on August 14, 2015, 10:50:59 AM
Pretty horrendous yesterday with some very impressive thunder claps and lightning and an awful lot of rain. Floods in a few local(ish) places such as Eastbourne and Brighton, but so far no floods here.

Bright sunshine now and quite a pleasant afternoon. Side effect of the heavy rain was that the pig sty's had a good wash out over night  :clap:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: trapper on August 14, 2015, 11:35:35 AM
Hi there, Andrew,

I hope that you and yours are all well.

The new pig palace is looking good.

What's the latest lambing score?
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: NeoTech on August 14, 2015, 03:30:40 PM
What keeps me out of the shop.. hmm well atm i enjoy driving this around and scare old ladies more than hogging metal at the milling machine..

(http://www.roughedge.se/blogg/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/20140619-184904-67744644.jpg)
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: NormanV on August 14, 2015, 04:20:23 PM
It's a car, anyone can see that. What is special about it?
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: NormanV on August 14, 2015, 04:28:43 PM
This is a proper car.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on August 14, 2015, 05:42:51 PM
Well Norman, also having a Disco I have to agree - however mine is getting rather long in the tooth now being a 2000/1 model year  :scratch:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: vtsteam on August 14, 2015, 10:45:41 PM
(http://www.thehumorsource.com/system/items/34459.jpg)

Just some odds and ends I had in the scrap box and some JB Weld. Gas mileage is better than I'd hoped.
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on August 15, 2015, 03:06:47 AM
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: NeoTech on August 18, 2015, 04:12:41 AM
It's a car, anyone can see that. What is special about it?

It has 1150 naturally aspirated horsepower in a big block engine.. So its kinda amusing to drive.. like a 4 wheeled roller coaster..
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: mechman48 on August 24, 2015, 05:55:18 AM
Where are these guys when you need one?

     



Pekka

He's fast.... but where is his bedding /bonding layer, laying straight on to concrete path isn't the best way of securing the blocks....  :scratch:
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on July 25, 2020, 12:38:39 PM
I don't seems to have been able to get into the workshop for DAYS recently  :bang:

Things have been conspiring to steal my time. The grazing was well over due a cut, BUT the Flail Mower was right at the back of the tractor shed, with six large 'apple crates' of seasoned fire wood in front needing stacking into the wood shed for winter. BUT before they were stacked, a dead tree close to the house needed felling and logging so that it could be stacked in first - although I'd deliberately left it standing for 18 months  still wanted to give it drying time under cover.

So - take down tree - log it - split it - stack it. I can't grub out its stump as our main foul drain runs within inches - it'll just have to rot over the years - it's low enough to mow over. OK NOW the apple bins could be shifted by tractor - two days stacking.

So NOW the mower could be recovered from the back of the tractor shed, oiled and greased and the 10 acres cut - 5 solid hours on the 1963 Ford 4000 and 26 litres of red diesel later can I have a beer please?

No! there's another tree that a certain person needed bringing down to let more light into the house - well that's NOT happening today - I'll have that beer  :beer:

So to bring this other tree down, and dispose of it (no use for burning) involves getting the dumper truck and JCB 803 into the front garden though a small eight foot field gate - BUT the gate has been jammed and unable to open since the burst water main incident - ten inch square gate posts have tilted towards each other jamming the five bar gate. OK crowbar gets it open, but how to make it closeable in the future :scratch: Quick Autocad sketch of an adapter plate to shift that latch 50 mm further away, cut it on the CNC Plasma Table (hey, I'm actually IN the workshop) bolt it all up and 'the jobs a good 'un ' (It was doing this that that 100 mm shift in X co-ordinates on the table came to the top of the list for fixing!) Now fairly simple job - bring the tree down,  cut it into suitable bits and make a few trips with the dumper truck to clear away, allowing me to grub out the stump with relatively little track or tyre damage to the lawns.

In the back ground to all this I was rebuilding my 'workshop PC' - getting all the legacy software re-loaded and tweaked to do what I wanted. It didn't help one little bit that when I intended to clean and re-format the partition on the second hard drive using 'DISKPART' SOMEHOW I managed to inadvertently clean and reformat the FIRST (operating system) hard drive - turn again Dick Whittington  :bang: Got there in the end.

OK field cut, trees felled, logged, split, stacked just one more, but this time rather pleasant task to perform. Visit our new Puppy - Abi(gail) an adorable Vizsla puppy - one of a litter of nine who will be joining us about 17th August, so no doubt life will be disrupted - but I don't mind this sort of disruption :ddb:

Meanwhile I can get a few days in the workshop - I scored some CO2 fire extinguishers on FB Market Place last night at a silly low price so they will need brackets making and mounted in the foundry and near the big generator. This is after having ordered two new ones that are due to be delivered on Monday - but a place like this needs extinguishers by every entrance and exit really - not an insurance stipulation, just a sensible precaution. I will note their tare weight, calculate the CO2 content and record it on a label and check them with a fish scale every now and again as these ones don't have the little gauges with red and green zones.

Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: Pete. on July 25, 2020, 03:53:21 PM
Bloody typical innit I had a load of new extinguishers delivered on site but we use them for hot works so they just stand loose. Last week I was sorting some stuff out and I found all the hangers and threw them in the scrap..
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: russ57 on July 25, 2020, 08:13:16 PM
I'm assuming that is you holding the puppies? So that's what you look like...



-russ

Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on July 26, 2020, 02:50:50 AM
Aye, grinning like the cat that stole the cream !l
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: howsitwork? on August 22, 2020, 03:45:50 PM
John

not been on for a while. Love the pups !

Bit concerned you now need a nappy ??🤪
Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: awemawson on August 22, 2020, 04:02:25 PM
Who's John?

And every dog I've brought home has covered me during the car journey - Abi only pee'd but the others have gone the whole hog  :lol:

Today we've had her one week - an exhausting week with very little workshop time !

Title: Re: What Keeps Me Out of the Workshop
Post by: howsitwork? on August 22, 2020, 05:05:32 PM
Andrew

like i said,  been a while since i ve been on site. Memory not improving as you noted :doh:

congratulations  on new hound, I want another sheepdog currently as down to one now and I do miss her companion.

All mine have been fair travellers.

Dog vs workshop no contest !