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The Breakroom => The Water Cooler => Topic started by: PTsideshow on April 01, 2011, 06:40:12 PM

Title: Acetylene prices going up 40%
Post by: PTsideshow on April 01, 2011, 06:40:12 PM
A plant that makes calcium carbide in Kentucky, exploded and since that is what most all the local gas plants use to make acetylene. It will be in short supply. Plus the price is going up 40% or there about's. Or so the rumors and what the LWS is speculating on. Don't know when or how long before the plant is back on line if ever. 2 dead
No-reason-discovered-for-Carbide-Industries-plant-explosion (http://www.whas11.com/home/No-reason-discovered-for-Carbide-Industries-plant-explosion-as-fire-continues-to-burn-118410004.html)
Title: Re: Acetylene prices going up 40%
Post by: Powder Keg on April 01, 2011, 09:41:07 PM
I think The place I work is switching over to propylene. They were talking about it earlier this week.
Title: Re: Acetylene prices going up 40%
Post by: mike os on April 02, 2011, 04:47:02 AM
given that most is made from natural gas, and made locally, this is just another excuse to rip everyone off....
Title: Re: Acetylene prices going up 40%
Post by: Rob.Wilson on April 02, 2011, 04:52:35 AM
given that most is made from natural gas, and made locally, this is just another excuse to rip everyone off....
   

I agree ,,,,,,,,, propane has nearly  doubled in price in two years  :bang:

Rob
Title: Re: Acetylene prices going up 40%
Post by: PTsideshow on April 02, 2011, 07:14:49 AM
Well I guess the Local welding supply shops  are rationing it, if you don't have a hard account with the stores, you can't get a bottles filled. And yes a lot of it is made from natural gas, but since welding use is only a small part. The bulk users may get preference. Get ready for PVC plastic's based on acetylene and anything else that uses it in its manufacture to go up.

Propylene seems to be what they are changing the must have customers to with propane a close second.

a new hydrogen-base metal cutting gas that independent users rate as cost-competitive, safer, faster, cleaner than other metal cutting gases while replenishing the oxygen depleted by fossil fuels.  (http://www.magnegas.com/metal-cutting.html)

It appears hydrogen for cutting in some form will be making a come back.

Both the LWS in my area are closed o the week end. Whether it is true or just an excuse to raise prices and add a surcharge. I don't know, but it is happening now.  And the guys on a HVAC forum are already talking about their suppliers taking steps to ration and that even some are cutting off schools for the rest of the year, or will be limiting the number of bottles delivered.

Google Acetylene Shortages USA

plant explosion/fire LINK (http://www.weldingandgasestoday.org/index.php/2011/03/fire-breaks-out-at-carbide-industries/)
Title: Re: Acetylene prices going up 40%
Post by: mike os on April 02, 2011, 08:55:40 AM
LOcally it wil make a difference in teh short term... but ...
Title: Re: Acetylene prices going up 40%
Post by: PTsideshow on April 06, 2011, 06:18:56 AM
Might be of interest to any that are affected by the rationing and price jump in the states, It is on alternate fuels!
This is a copy of an email sent out by Harris/Lincoln (http://email.lincolnelectric.com/track?t=v&mid=4313&msgid=4308&did=2200&edid=2200&sn=1245880827&eid=txfireman92@gmail.com&eeid=txfireman92@gmail.com&uid=18830&rid=18830&erid=18830&fl=&mvid=&extra=&&&2000&eu=100&&&VWP)
Title: Re: Acetylene prices going up 40%
Post by: PTsideshow on April 06, 2011, 08:01:46 PM
News release from the company that had the fire (http://"http://www.carbidellc.com/News/news1.html")
And under applications heading explains about why acetylene is still generated by calcium carbide.
Title: Re: Acetylene prices going up 40%
Post by: PTsideshow on April 09, 2011, 07:13:14 PM
If you are curious about switching to alternative fuel gas check this out.
 site with some PDF explanations on it  (http://www.thermadyne.com/Alternative%20Fuel%20Options/index.html) I have had a Victor heavy duty gas axe for 40 years
 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Acetylene prices going up 40%
Post by: dickda1 on April 13, 2011, 11:31:13 PM
If you do TIG welding, you know about the recent cost of Helium.  This gas is becoming truely rare.
Title: Re: the price increase has arrived!
Post by: PTsideshow on June 22, 2011, 10:48:18 PM
While I was picking up some back order items at my Local Airgas I was informed that the price increase for acetylene has arrived they have double approximately. for all sizes and they are going to have a limited number of assorted sized cylinders available. :bugeye: