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BaronJ:

--- Quote from: superc on March 29, 2014, 03:30:47 PM ---
Well the proposed legislation does sound nice, but I suspect the 30 year old torpedo heater won't give a hoot and will continue to dirty up the power lines.

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[/size]I agree. :-)  At 30 years old the legislation didn't exist when that heater was made. [size=78%]



--- Quote --- I think this problem is why some places I have worked have isolation transformers between different pieces of equipment.  Seems strange to encounter a situation inside a home workshop where that might not be a terrible idea.  Also noting Baron that you didn't add the home of Sieg, ie.e., China to the list of places where the legislation is being considered.   

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Actually the manufacturer is supposed to manufacture the machines such that they comply with the [/size]legislation in which ever country they are sold !  But it does seem that this is not always the case.[size=78%]

[/size]Bluechip offered a viable solution although I would add an LC filter to the heater and feed the mains to the heater through it.  A ready built solution would be to fit an IEC filter socket to the heater.  These are available with 10 or 15 amp ratings.  Indeed if you were in the UK, I could give you half a dozen...  At least they wouldn't end up at the scrap yard or in landfill. [size=78%]
MetalMuncher:
Interesting tale, SuperC!

For my own knowledge, do you know if the power outlet to which you moved the heater, and solved the problem, happens to be on the same 120V leg of your incoming 240V, or is it fed from the other 120V leg? Just curious. I've not encountered anything like this before, but will surely keep it in mind for any head-scratching similar problems in the future.

Glad you found the solution before having to tear stuff apart! :)
superc:
Of course I would have to take the circuit breaker box apart to be sure, but I believe both outlets share the right hand bank of switches on the house box, but are not on the same switch.  No idea at all if that has any relevance to your question.
MetalMuncher:
Not really. ;)

One branch feeds the left side (typically the odd numbered breakers in a service panel) and the other branch feeds the right side, even numbers. So all I am really asking is, comparing those two electrical outlets, are they both on either even or odd numbered breakers, or is one odd and one even?

Since this house was built in the 70s, we have had to replace EVERY ONE of the many "push in" wired outlets and switches due to loose connections over time. So, some years ago, having met with the frustration of which breaker did what so many times, we decided to map our service panel to all the circuits in the house. Using one of those tracer tool sets where you plug the transmitter into an outlet, then go find which breaker feeds it with the wireless receiver, it only took us a few hours one weekend to write it all down. Then I made two tables in a Word document that lists them both by breaker number and then again by circuit served. Now when I need to work on something I just use my smartphone to look up which breaker to turn off. :) VERY glad we did that!! I also keep both lists printed near the service panel, in case my phone isn't working for whatever reason.

I was just curious about this, because I remember we once had a set of wireless intercoms that used the AC power lines to communicate between them. The one stipulation was that all of the intercoms had to be fed from the same incoming service transformer (so you couldn't have one, for example, at your buddy's house next door and talk to him too). Not sure why that mattered, but it is the first thing that came to mind while reading your solution. I presume all of your house and basement are on the same panel, so the only pertinent scenario, if one applied at all, to my line of thinking is separate branches of the main feed.

superc:
I have had electricians add several extra outlets over the past few decades.  It was interesting because there were some weird electrical decisions made by the original builder.  Things like an outside light socket being connected to the guest bathroom circuit rather than the much closer circuits in the kitchen, etc.  Got at least 4 110V circuits in the basement, but they all go to the same side.  No idea from upstairs if that is an even number or an odd number.  If 1 is on the left, then the right should be odd, yes?
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