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Dawai:
Very cool. Some of the guys around my area have went to liquid salt to temper things. I know nothing about it. Would like to learn more about tempering things. A door on the back side, and you'd have a furnace capable of doing black smithing too. They do a piece of pipe with open holes on both ends to heat with. AS a electrician, sticking a metal "rod, tongs, or pliers" into a heater coil fired "something" is a possibility of getting a shock. Even a "fork" into a toaster, the coils make the fork a "transformer secondary" picking up the power in the coils and delivering it to you. THE $27 PID I bought for my beer cooker can be re ranged for ceramic kiln temperatures. Rex100?? came with a SSR and 6' K type thermocouple. (yes I am shutting the door after the cow has left) might help someone else thou. AND yes, you are right, one side is "HOT" if you use the SSR to turn it on and off. I put a 10hp 4 pole relay in to switch it off, and a plug to totally disconnect it. IF you wish to use a "cheaper" heating element, say a piece of stainless mig wire?? you can use a SSRV, like a SSR, but has a pot you turn to limit the power like a light dimmer, except for 75 amps for the one I have here. |
tom osselton:
Nice furnace you can take a look a this site for temp control it may help you out http://fusedglass.org/learn/technical_tutorials My sister in law made some fused glass and knows I have Dad's kiln although it doesn't have a pid on it I was thinking about e-bays anyways hope it helps. |
unc1esteve:
Tom, I sorted out the problems with this controller. On this model only the PV, the current temperature, is able to be changed from C - F. Everything else remains in Celsius. The instructions also talk about turning on the autotune but it is always on. The instructions are written as to assume the user has previous experience with a PID. No explanation of the meaning of the terms used. |
unc1esteve:
Dawai, Here is a good book for tempering. http://www.bookdepository.com/Hardening%2C-Tempering-Heat-Treatment-Tubal-Cain/9780852428375 During the build I had thought about making a back door but decided to stay with the original design. During my research I found that not many use an electric forge because the forging temperature is right at the maximum operating temperature of an electric resistance oven. Gas forges are faster. Here is a link to a very nice gas forge that could be easily modified. I have not finalized my wiring design. I am thinking about adding a switch and alarm to show that the door is open. This controller supports a separate alarm for the temperature setting. I am using 110 VAC at the moment but may switch to 220 VAC to achieve a higher temperature. A second relay would be required. I also have a rotating switch as you described. There are many PIDs out there. They state their specifications. I could not find a glossary of the terms used. I found it confusing trying to chose a controller. It seems that the ones sold by USA companies are more expensive but are more USA user friendly. It is never good practice to use a 220 VAC circuit using only one leg for switching. Both legs must be switched. Sticking any metal object into a live electrical circuit is life ending. |
unc1esteve:
After a few test runs I have noticed that the ssr relay must have a heat sink. Also the nichrome wire will break anywhere it is touched by the hot aluminum. I am thinking about enclosing the wire coils with fused quartz glass tube. Just started to test with 220 VAC. |
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