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B*******g up a door and frame in a restoration stylee
RossJarvis:
--- Quote from: chipenter on November 09, 2013, 03:32:28 PM ---You don't realy need a weather bar for an outward opening door , can you take half of the top and half of the bottom .
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This one is actually inward opening, which might not be clear on the photos, plus the ground level rises from the building to above the sill level in a short distance, so there'll probably be a fair bit of splash-up. I'm trying to be sure to be sure! I had thought of one of those aluminium/rubber jobbies but I think the oak bar is more in keeping with the original doors around the property.
The door also has big riveted wrought iron strap hinges and the frame has similarly over-size drop-the door-on-the-big-pin wotsits so I'll not be altering those in a hurry. (I'm now getting mixed up with my weather-bar and weather-board nomenclature as well, I mean putting a weather board and combined bottom rail in). There is also a lot of damage at the bottom of the door and the top is fine so I'm thinking at least a couple of inches need taking from the bottom to make good. I need to take 30mm off at least to fit the new frame size anyway.
chipenter:
Sorry my mistake , an oak weather bar glued and screwed to the stiles will help hold the bottom of the door together .
RossJarvis:
After a few more days I thought I’d update you on more of my incompetence. As the days go on there are triumphs and failures and a growing insight into my own lack of abilities and knowledge in the wood-butchering arts.
Last time we met, I’d stripped the frame and filled the worst of the worm holes and dangerously eaten corner bits, made a sill and started stripping the door. I’ve now stripped the door and have started b*******g this up too. Door stripped;
The latch side of the door was fairly battered, inside and out on the lower half, due to 112 years of use (I’ve re-adjusted my dating technique, due to minute historical examination and research. I’d assumed the stables were the same age as the manor house which is 1850. However, looking at a large plaque on the wall with the number 1901 on it, I’ve adjusted my estimate to approximately the turn of last century!). Looking about at the options and spare bits of wood lying around, I routed a ½” rebate down the edges;
…and slapped a spare bit of moulding in the hole;
…I carefully sunk the pins far enough into the moulding to almost, but not quite, be clear of the planer blade when reducing the wood in size. Having bashed the pins in a bit more, I levelled the new bits to the face and edge of the door by hand;
…..front and rear done;
I’d thought through a few ways of dealing with the bottom of the door, including making a bottom-rail-weatherboard, but ended up making a front fitting weatherboard from oak;
..and even remembered a drip;
I think ideally, a new door would normally be in order, due to the amount of worm holes in both frame and door, however, I quite like the idea of keeping some of the history of the building and the original work of who-ever made the door. Currently I’m going to see how the door and frame will go by painting the front and edges, but leaving the bare wood and “patina” inside. This may cause problems with warping, but it’s been good enough for 112 years. A clear coat could be in order, but I’m not sure about the timing as the chappie in charge wants it in on Monday (must remember to pin the dpc on, must remember to pin dpc on, must remember….). Anyway, here’s the door and frame standing in the middle of a coach house;
…it looks good enough to stand in a museum or gallery, surely if found-art is good enough for Marcel Du Champ?
ibuildstuff4u:
Looks great! I love the look of the old door.
Keep up the good work!
Dale P.
Stilldrillin:
I've never heard of Marcel de Champ....... :scratch:
But, that door assembly looks like a champ to me! :thumbup:
Blummin well done, and well shown Ross! :clap: :clap:
David D
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