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doubleboost:
Plans for the sort of things we will be building
Are drawn by a old man in a small shop some where
Computer software is completely different
John
dsquire:

--- Quote from: RobWilson on June 30, 2013, 05:05:45 PM ---Hi John


My thoughts ,,,,,,,,,  £50 for a set of traction engine or loco plans is about right , say 15 sheets thats £3.33 a sheet ,,,,,,,still cheaper than one copy of Model engineer ,(witch is just a load of crap now a days , more adds than out else ).   

Maybe if folk  are un happy at the price ,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe they should have ago at drawing there own plans ,there "only bits of paper"

Link for Don http://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=85129

Rob

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Rob

Thanks for the link. I thought John was talking about MEM. That is why I couldn't find it.

I was a draftsman/designer first on the board and later on AutoCad so I have a bit of experience in this field.

£50 for a set or £3.33 a sheet is a bargin if you stop and figure it all out. That £50 for a set all too often turns into £50 for 3 sets after the original purchaser makes a couple of copies and gives them to his friends or sells them on Evil Bay.

Some people design for fun and for some it is their bread and butter job. At £50 for a set they are going to have to sell an awfull lot of copies to make a living. Remember to factor in all the expenses incured in generating the plans in the first place. How much is a seat in AutoCad or SolidWorks costing right now? Then there is the printing machine and printing, storage, shipping supplies, time Etc.

I would say that spending £50 for a set of drawings and having it save me a couple of 1000 hours work is the bargin of a lifetime.

For anyone that thinks the plans or computer software are too expensive, remember that you don't have to buy them if you don't want to. They only make it available, they don't force you to buy.

Cheers  :beer:

Don
kwackers:
A classic case of people overvaluing their own time and undervaluing other peoples.

I've worked on computer software projects that have taken a team of 60 people 4 years. What's a fair price? With 240 man years work in there you couldn't do it yourself. To make a living you have to divide the cost by the expected number of sales. Part of the problem is that some people just cant see beyond the cost of making a physical copy.

There's also the issue of freely available stuff (either genuine or pirated) devaluing commercial work. It's something that's bothered me ever since I made my indexing/rotary controller designs freely available.
John Stevenson:

--- Quote from: kwackers on July 01, 2013, 04:06:22 AM ---A classic case of people overvaluing their own time and undervaluing other peoples.



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Steve,
That's the best statement I have seen on the subject and sums it up in a flash.

How may times have you seen a post "How much would you charge for this ?? " and a sketch or picture.
Then they all come out of the woodwork with statements like . I charge $60 to $80 per hour if I'm working from home, that will take me two hours so it will be $120 to $160.

Hang on it's a 15 minute job so why should I pay for your lack of decent machinery and incompetence.
John Rudd:
Gawwddd......Wish I hadnt started this........... :Doh:
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