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| SwarfnStuff:
Hi, Like RodW in Queensland here in Victoria (Down the bottom of OZ) we have E10 but I notice that it has been withdrawn from local petrol stations - I was going to say Servos (Service stations) but in reality the only 'Service' they provide is to take your $. As far as I can tell not enough people were using it although mosat if not all new cars are compatible. Cheers, Swarfnstuff |
| DavidA:
Andy, .. I wish the US would stop doing it; due to recent bad harvests around the world, the price of grain is rising and with it the price of bread etc!.. Not wanting to turn the thread into a political one, but I agree with you on this point. I feel the same about growing oil seed for fuel. Grain and oil seed should be grown for food, not fuel. End of rant. Dave. (who runs a 1.5 Litre Diesel Saxo on 50% biofuel home made from waste veg oil.) |
| andyf:
Anthony, I'm not sure where you got your "UK average = 56mpg" from (converting to the Queen Anne gallons you use, it would equate to 45mpg) . If it comes from manufacturer's figures, I think most motorists over here would agree that, even under ideal conditions with none of the traffic snarl-ups which beset us, it is somewhat optimistic. The makers advertise figures for urban consumption, and also for consumption at 56mph. Perhaps the latter has got mixed up with mpg. Andy |
| vtsteam:
I agree that raising grains for fuel is not the best use for farmland. Food is. I have done grant funded research into conversions of waste materials from the dairy industry into fuel and worked on developing burners for using green wood chips from tree waste and brush for heat production in Vermont. Large scale agriculture of fuel crops on farm land is in fact energy intensive. Vast monoculture practices require fertilizers and pesticides on a large scale. The pesticides and herbicides produce immunities in the pests themselves and gradually become ineffective. Costs for these agents continue to rise as large scale chemical industries maximize profit. There is a question in my mind whether the value of fuel produced, minus the subsidies really justifies all of the costs of converting food land to fuel land, in terms of financial, envionmental, and agricultural management and certainly in terms of world relations. I am a great fan of bio-fuels, but don't believe burning corn products or rapeseed oil is a proper long term approach to fuel problems. I also don't want to take part in political debates. I don't think this is necessarily political in itself. I think it's just of practical interest, and don't really have much more to say about it. My work with building things and experimenting has always leaned toward self sufficiency and alternative energy production, that's a big interest for me. |
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