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mosey:
There is a special satisfaction from making something perhaps laboriously by hand that is not in any way related to production by machine. This is evidenced by the Japanese crafts of chisel/sword making, glass making, cabinet making, etc. There is a Zen state involved. Unless you have experienced it, I think that you will not have any idea of what I am describing. It is not related or comparable to modern processes. I am not suggesting that it is superior to hand crafts for the non-maker, just different. I am not trying to be contentious, but share something I experienced and value. Mosey :med: |
Jonny:
If you want something precisely fitted, it can only be done by hand tools, talking microns with a high polished finish. Literally a few microns out its scrap its that critical! I would dearly love to see some whiz kid pick up a file assuming he held the right way round to start with. Then theres the small matter of doing the job, only the best need apply of which circa 50 in UK top whack that could. The gun trade having worked in it at top level mostly uses cnc even on quality stuff. The downside is the parts can only be made some where near then sent out to specialists of which there are less than three still alive worldwide in certain areas. We used to deal with quality mostly English/Scottish stuff, sorry different league to everything else. Though do know three ex Brit pats who setup in US. Nothing better with customer forking out £97k Purdey standing along side then taking a hammer to it because cnc couldn't do their job after more than two decades of practice. Its not just external cosmetic its internal hidden from view as well. To my knowledge theres only 5 people that can make finished article by hand. Some setup after getting sacked from the big houses since they only employ nothing more than engineers. What really killed the trade was about 11 years ago the US high flyers realising they were paying top dollar for a cnc made product at hand made prices, quite frankly don't blame them. Due to the high cnc setup, programming, reprogramming which has been endless theres still a long way to go and they have to recoup these costs, hence the higher price for cnc batch end product. Any idiot can sit at a desk with no understanding, knowledge of intended use draw something up, convert over and load machine up - just sounds good. For most every day products its fine but top high end no. Regarding the files, just bang the tangs in to the round or square holes. To remove knock them off, used to go through two best quality aka (Vallorbe) files a day sometimes quicker than milling out. |
Jonny:
Precisely Mosey, how long does it take to properly make a Damascus sword - years. They are supposedly better and stronger though, its the forging process |
mosey:
Shakespeare, Byron, Einstein, Joyce, T. S. Elliott used only a pencil. Mosey |
vtsteam:
Not everything is a competition. Seems there's room in the world for people who appreciate CNC and those who appreciate hand work -- why should we be mad at each other over preferences? I'm a mad modder who appreciates both. I've done a little of both. My level of workmanship pales by comparison to the best of either, and I have great respect for people supremely competent in ways that I will never achieve in what is left of this lifetime. One of the things I greatly appreciated was Steve Heslop's video of making his helmet, mostly by hand and perseverance. And perhaps a little Zen. Another video I appreciated was a giant crankshaft being CNC turned and milled. The world is an interesting and complex place. This forum shows us the range of talents and skills, materials and techniques, approaches, and alternate approaches that the creativity of humankind can muster. And there's no end to it. |
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