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andyf:
Ade, if you look at the Oxford English Dictionary, it uses -ize as standard, with -ise as a variant.

English has become so internationalised/ized that we can now only claim ownership of that part of it which is used in writing and speech within the UK. It's our own fault; we spread it all over the globe.

It's interesting how much feedback there has been into English from other completely unrelated languages. Much is obvious, like "bungalow" (a one storey house) from one of the Indian languages, but some of it has taken a more convoluted route, like "compound" in the sense of "the diplomatic compound". That came from a Dutch word which in turn came from the Malaysian "kampung", meaning village.

Andy.

PS I have seen many c19 English property deeds which refer to colors, rather than colours, on their plans.

PPS For anyone interested in English as it has developed offshore, Bill Bryson's "Mother Tongue" is a great read. Good for a shufti when in the khazi (both from Arabic).

vtsteam:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap:

I didn't realize that there was a proper English, since it appears to vary so dramatically throughout the main island and through the centuries as well. Is there some historically static linguistic population speaking the real proper variety that we might study to improve our speech over here? Would it sound more like James Mason, or Michael Caine, or Cary Grant? I understand Dick Van Dyke did a wonderful job of reproducing it in Mary Poppins. Always enjoyed it when Lord Peter Whimsey said "ain't", myself!

ps. I like the sound of aluminium, better than aluminum, but will get charged double if I use it at the scrap yard.

I really do like the lathe knob upgrade. I'm going to have to do something similar. :thumbup:

mechman48:
Wow, whoa up there guys :zap: didn't intend to fire up an international debate on the whys & wherefores of the Englih vernacular :scratch: , just a habit we brits have of poking a little humour at our cousins across the pond :D :D :D :) :lol: of which is most often reciprocated with the same amount of jolity, & appreciated :lol:

Still it's nice to diversify occasionally 'innit', whatever the language, at least we communicate our ideas,methods & tips to all & sundry which is the whole concept of forums like these, it would be a poorer world if we didn't. :headbang:

Cheers
George :nrocks:

vtsteam:
Oh, just poking a bit of fun back, there. Great fan of you cousins, including your strange accents! :beer:

krv3000:
well dun a good mod

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