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Cincinnati no.2 (English made?) tool and cutter grinder - buy or pass?
PekkaNF:
I have a day or two to decide if I should buy this machine or not.
Plate says "Cincinnati milling machines ltd Birmingham" Type (as I can see): CK 63.05. + single digit I'm not sure. Googled few hours but could not find exact weight and dimesions on this one.
It looks pretty much like the OM model and has some 100kg of tooling. It would come with all tooling I think I need + some extras. Only thing it is missing is magnetic table. I't is in very good condition according to seller. He also said first that it probably weights 500 kg ....but I think closer to 1000kg + tooling would be closer bet.
Questions:
* What kind of chunks it can be easily disassebled for transportation? My trailer can bear maximum 600 kg legally and it is 400 km haul, I don't want to wreck myselff/car or least have a little chat with friendly people on uniform. Over weight fines are astronomical here and winter weather is another consideration.
* How to take table off for transportation? I have read that it has loose balls on groove - I don't want brinneling during transit.
* How much space it needs? It looks from google like it needs 1,4 * 1,7 metres, but do I really need access behind to operate it?
* Does it has something critical that needs to be checked (might be my first real TCG!), or known fatal features?
I tought that I will make something much smaller like Bonelle or Stent because that is all I need, but with same money I would get real TCG. Only thing is that it is whole lot heavier and bigger than I need and in order to cram it in I have to sell one crappy lathe (not that big deal really). But excessive transport weight would be a deal killer.
Pekka
mattinker:
Pekka,
The manual for the Cincinnati N°2 appears in John Stevensons Misses's "Mary Poppins" CD "Tool and Cutter Grinder" Mk4 2325lbs / 2.2= about 1056 Kgs
If it's a N°1, it weighs 950lbs / 2.2, = about 432Kgs. The CD is really worth while if you get a T&G, it covers quite a few models. I just tried www.metoolsonline.com and it's not listed. If you need it try Sir John, he's on this group!
I think you will find that it's an American machine.
Regards, Matthew
PekkaNF:
Wish it were #1, but no such luck.
It looks awfully much like this:
http://www.backsaw.net/pics/TC/Cinc2TC-OM.jpg
All manual controls including slow feed and push-bars left and right, as well as grinding head is a exactly the same.
But the control box on the middle of the pedestal looks more modern. It is void of swiches, instead there is 1970s type control box with two push buttons and two selector switches left of the pedestal.
I can only find the american made, but on the legend plate there is machine type "CK 63.05.*" and very bottom text "Cincinnati milling machines ltd Birmingham".
http://www.lathes.co.uk/cincinnati/page5.html
But I have no idea where this particular TCG was made. Britons may have have acted as trading company and sell few of these this much up north.
I have made a picture search and I find fairly similar machines, most of the picures appear from much older or much newer machines! Probably much has not changed.
I made some inquiries about heavier trailer or van/truck but unloading the 1000 kg beast on one piece on middle of the winter into full garage starts to worry me. Then again I have this funny feeling that if I manage to cram it in here I'll wonder how I ever did without it.
Pekka
vtsteam:
Pure guesses -- could the 63.05 refer to date of manufacture? and CK = Cincinnati UK?
Is this it?
vtsteam:
Some specs of another:
http://www.gaec.com/catalog/Machines/k11891a.htm
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