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mklotz:

--- Quote from: Troutsqueezer on July 18, 2012, 05:28:47 PM ---What an interesting day. Pivotal might be one word to describe it.  :zap:

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Old Chinese curse:  May you live in interesting times!

I'm guessing that HMEM lost at least half of its best and most prolific contributors today.  Way to go, Rick. 
tel:

--- Quote from: mzt on July 18, 2012, 06:42:53 AM ---"Mexico" does not work, either.  :scratch:

Probably only moderators (if all of them) and new users have access to the site.
New memberships are automatically approved, but not many have chosen that way.
I for one will wait till the problem is sorted out, that won't take long.

Marcello

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Well I'm a mod and I can't access either site now - talk about crappy treatment
Swarfing:
Guys welcome over and i hope somebody can either clarify or correct me. Unless the forum has warned you up front that any content published on the site will or possibly be used for sale purpose in their terms and conditions? then they can not do it. You are in your rights to ask them to remove it or ask your permission first. You had to join the site to share your information and they have a responsibility in accepting that will look after your data. Just because your writings are made public does not give them the right to own it unless you are told up front?

I would suggest that all involved email asking for you posts to be removed. If you get no reply or the wrong answer then follow up with a complaint to the ISP of their behaviour.

Have a look here at another's take   http://www.forumdr.com/who-owns-forum-posts/67/
tel:

--- Quote from: Swarfing on July 18, 2012, 05:55:01 PM ---Guys welcome over and i hope somebody can either clarify or correct me. Unless the forum has warned you up front that any content published on the site will or possibly be used for sale purpose in their terms and conditions? then they can not do it. You are in your rights to ask them to remove it or ask your permission first. You had to join the site to share your information and they have a responsibility in accepting that will look after your data. Just because your writings are made public does not give them the right to own it unless you are told up front?

I would suggest that all involved email asking for you posts to be removed. If you get no reply or the wrong answer then follow up with a complaint to the ISP of their behaviour.

Have a look here at another's take   http://www.forumdr.com/who-owns-forum-posts/67/

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This, in part, just in from Pat J

Tel-
 
I have been permanently banned from HMEM.
I threatened legal action if they did not remove my drawings from the site.
 
Since I specifically state on all my drawings "Not for Commercial Use", I expected to at least get an answer from the new owners.
 
Instead I got this:
 

   1.

      You have been banned for the following reason:
      If there is copyrighted worked please send the offenses to: Copyright Agent - Group Builder, Inc. PO Box 911 San Marcos, Texas 78667

      Date the ban will be lifted: Never

It just isn't right.
 
I know it is just modeling,  but I have a lot of time in my drawings, and I'll be damned if someone uses them commercially.
 
My panties are all in a wad.
Swarfing:
I just read their T&C's and section 6 through 6.3, there is no mention that they will will solicit your intellectual rights for money (i.e charge a membership fee to see it). The internet is a wonderful thing as it keeps a lot of the old pages and you dont even know it :-) 

http://web.archive.org/web/20101226224132/http://www.homemodelenginemachinist.com/index.php?action=register

Here is the original T&C's you would have joined under. I would look closely at paragraph 2 and remind them of the obligation you signed up to :-)

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