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cedge:
Pat
Unfortunately it appears that you'll be jumping through a few hoops before you get to the point of filing suit. Look forward to being ignored, threatened and then showered with lots of useless communication before you have enough paper trail to interest a lawyer. The game is played assuming you'll give up, run out of money or screw up and make a dumb threat or libelous statement. You'll need some real tenacity and endurance. The largest problem will be proving loss, since you weren't marketing the drawings. You can do it, but it's not a cake walk. I'm not an attorney so do not misconstrue this information as legal advice. Consult legal counsel before deciding this route is one you wish to travel.

Steve

shred:
Read up on filing a "DMCA Takedown Request". There is a defined process for that to cover this sort of thing.

Personally I don't mind somebody getting paid for their work (ie: Rick & co for making the site what it was, the guys paying for the server, etc), but it goes both ways. The new TOS says the new HMEM owners can now get paid for access to or could sell printed copies of my work or whatever, which I did not sign up for.

I'm sure somebody will fill the gap and the world won't end one way or the other, but there you go.

I will also note that as near as I can tell, the new HMEM owners are so interested in model engine machining that they've apparently never been to a meeting of the local metalworking club.

raynerd:

--- Quote from: loply on July 19, 2012, 06:20:05 AM ---Your knickers: Untwist them.

This looks like the kind of standard, off-the-shelf T&C that thousands of sites have. You ever read them? Who cares?

There are far better things to get wound up about that some inconsequential T&Cs on a forum.

--- End quote ---

The difference with Model Engineering forums is that people have posted their own plans and build logs, which lets face it, could easily be charged for! In fact, I`ve used peoples build logs to build engines and found them more useful than the plans I paid for!! Likewise people have have even gone further and posted plans which certainly could be sold!

PatJ:
Thanks for the advice guys.

The way in which things were changed was particularly caulous, and then ignoring any requests for take down information showed the true colors of the new admin guy.

The mode of operation seems to be buy a site, muscle your way in, ban anyone who objects to anything you do, and just ride roughshod over anyone and everything.

In my opinion, it could not have been handled any worse, and will certainly become a case study about how NOT to hand over a forum.

The word "backstab" comes to mind.

Several other words come to mind also, none of which I will repeat here.

It was a unique forum with a very unique and talented group of individuals, and it appears to me that the things that made it so attractive, enjoyable and usable (features and individuals) have left the building.

Certainly a statement needs to be made by those who feel some injustice here.
I perhaps have 1000 hours in drawings on that site.
You can't buy drawings like that for any price anywhere, they were unique.

For those who simply used the site and enjoyed it, it will be no big deal.
For those who made the site what it was, it is a big deal.

I see it as a Chernobyl event due to the way it was handle and the manner in which the people who made that site what it is today were treated.
I feel there will be a toxic cloud of radioactivity for many years to come (about 1,000 years).

Pat J

NickG:
How do you delete your HMEM account guys?

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