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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #25 on: December 25, 2008, 08:47:45 PM »
Tim
I'll have to do some checking to see if my old connections are still existent, but wrecked motorcycles are not a problem to find. The local Insurance Salvage Auction has them almost every sale. Problem is that after I sold my company, I no longer have a motor vehicle dealers license, so I can't register directly to buy at the sales.

I doubt there will be any major balance problem since the motor is counterweighted by a human backside. My concern would be more about if and when the motor lets go and that human backside is there to collect all the flying shrapnel....LOL

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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #26 on: December 25, 2008, 09:16:11 PM »
Cheers everyone for the comments.

I sit dead in the middle so no help counterbalancing the engine there, but I don't think I will notice if it's a BIT out of balance.

Hopefully the engine won't let go. It's only done 9,500 km and this engine is VERY reliable. However, I will already have to put an aluminium heat shield between the cockpit and the motor so that should provide some protection.

Here we don't need any licence to register at the auctions to buy damaged vehicles. It's great!

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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2008, 09:48:08 PM »
Andrew,
This particular auction sale is "run" by the insurance companies doing business here in the state. The sale is a primary source for auto salvage yards in a 4 state area. That is why the need for a dealer's license. Otherwise you'd have to pay the taxes on each purchase. I used to pick up the odd stolen/recovery vehicle to resell, but you really had to look them over closely before bidding or you could easily wind up with a badly cooked motor or tranny. You'd be surprised how badly a car thief can beat on one when he makes a run for it.

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« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2008, 04:31:14 AM »
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I used to pick up the odd stolen/recovery vehicle to resell

Ahha! A used car saleman. You don't have a law degree as well?

Now I know where all the slick talk comes from. ::) ::)


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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2008, 08:39:55 AM »
John
Guilty as charged, Your Honor...LOL  Cars, Lorries, farm equipment and industrial machinery of many stripes.... I've sold it all.

It was even more devious than that. Here in the US the tax laws used to allow you to donate a car to charity and claim a deduction equal to the "Blue book" value of the automobile. The car didn't even have to be running. I was a bit more ethical than most. I never donated one that couldn't be driven, but I sure bought them cheaply. Sadly, they changed the tax laws and now you can only deduct what the charity is able to sell the car for.... a huge difference in most cases.

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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #30 on: December 26, 2008, 01:11:16 PM »
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I used to pick up the odd stolen/recovery vehicle to resell

Ahha! A used car saleman. You don't have a law degree as well?

Now I know where all the slick talk comes from. ::) ::)


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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2009, 09:09:52 PM »
Andrew, where you at man???   I talked with BrassMachine the other day and he recommened the GS500 engine for a few different reasons. Any chance you will be done with in the next couple months? :) If so make sure to let us know what you think. So far is there anything different you would do? I wondered if you could have cut the upper frame tube that the shifter linkage mounts to? Right above the engine head and shift the engine towards center anymore? I am not a little fella so I dont think the unbalanced weight would be as much of a factor but Ever inch over would help. Thanks
Tim

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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2009, 07:35:48 PM »
Hey zeusrekning,

I think the GS500 engine is a great engine for this buggy, but it is VERY wide. The buggy should be finished by the 1st of february. I've been working 9 hour days just on the buggy and I might have a friend come and help in a few days.

I had originally planned to cut the upper frame as you describe, but it is very lucky that I didn't. The seat I got only JUST fits in between the top frame rails. If I had moved the engine in a bit in wouldn't fit.
Also, the engine is air cooled so it gets very, very hot. I didn't want to have it too close to me during driving. Also going to put an aluminium heat shield between me and the engine.
Another reason not to do that is that at the bottom of the engine there is a large cylindrical protrusion in line with the crankshaft (maybe for the ignition, clutch or bearings I'm not sure). This part of the engine is already inside the frame. I will get a picture for you right now.

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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2009, 09:41:44 PM »
OK, here's an update.

Finished modifying the steering rack. Instead of tacking a bush on one end, I decided to machine a press fit bushing on the lathe to press into the rack. I might have to bore it out a bit more, but at the moment it works perfectly.



Rear bearing plates arrived from Edge, so now the rear swingarm is 100% complete except paint



520 50 tooth sprocket from a motorcycle shop in Brookvale was $40 new. The guy went through all the 520 50 tooth sprockets to find me the cheapest, AND then he gave me a discount! I think it looks pretty good. The place was called APW motorcycles.



Picked up a seat on ebay. A friend and I bought the pair for $140, and I got the more faded one because I need the reclining lever on the left. It won't fit on the right because of the engine.



Mounted the oil cooler at the back of the buggy. If I was to do it again I would save some money by using rigid steel pipes, rather than the expensive oil cooler pipes.





Removed the rear brake assembly from the bike



Made the suspension pivot pins. The rear one is a bit longer than stock because I made the pivot wider.
Instead of threading the end of the pins I decided to use cotter/split pins through the end of the bars. I also bored out the nuts to weld them on the pins, rather than threading them on.



Seat rails without the holes drilled in them



One of the wing supports done. It was easier to cut the correct angles than I expected



Also, I fitted the front suspension mounts. I had to tack and grind off the top suspension mount like 10 times to get it in the right spot and square to everything. Magnets helped hold it in place but made the arc (during welding) go a little bit strange



I hope to have the buggy done by the 1st of feb. It will be close, but I think I can make it, especially if my friend comes over to help.

Andrew
« Last Edit: January 21, 2009, 03:59:44 AM by jones »
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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2009, 11:29:01 PM »
Looking great! Im watching closely, as the ZX-9 is going to go along a similar route to that.. but likely 3 wheels.. so I can keep it licensed as a Motorcycle...

Unless I get a wild hair after cleaning out garage space.. and make a small dar like the DP1 or something.
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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2009, 03:08:43 AM »
Hi Andrew great progress  :thumbup:, looks a very neat job  :clap:


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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2009, 10:05:02 AM »
Andrew,

You mentioned the hoses for the oil cooler and should have gone with solid tubing. I'm sure you know that vibration is an enemy of rigid tubing. You'd probably spend time mounting it with rubber mounts and replacing worn through tubing if it rubbed against the frame or some other part.

Just my view.

Can't wait to see the finished product. I'd love to build one too, but I've got to many projects as it is now. :)

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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2009, 07:52:54 PM »
Hi all,

haven't posted in a while because I got fed up with how long it was taking to build. However, HERE IT IS! Pretty much finished. I've taken it apart for painting. Then it's just reassemble and a few odd jobs (wiring, brake line, throttle cable...) and it's done!

Here's a pic of the buggy before I took it apart:



Cheers,
Andrew
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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2009, 09:37:21 PM »
Nice Andrew. Love to see some pics when your finally sitting in it and runnin about.  :ddb: :ddb:

Those rims look familar. Are they VW?

Again nice looking buggy.  :nrocks:  :nrocks: :beer: :beer: :nrocks: :nrocks:

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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2009, 01:11:34 AM »
Good job Andrew  :thumbup:

You should be very proud of your good work, looking forward to seeing the finish paint job.

Have fun

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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2009, 03:49:59 AM »
That`s looking great Andrew!  :thumbup:

Blummin well done....  :clap:

Looking forward to seeing the painted, finished buggy.

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« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2009, 05:54:46 AM »
Cheers everyone, it's support like that which has made this possible.

Small update, the paint I used looked AMAZING in gloss black undercoat. Then I put satin black top coat on it and... it was terrible. Turned out the paint had gone off so the paint company has sent me a new tin in gloss. Should look fantastic!

The paint is from www.kbs-coatings.com.au
Highly recommended, but I haven't really tested it yet.
It's like POR-15 but better, and made in Australia.
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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2009, 07:30:34 AM »
That is a really nice build - I do hope you get a lot of fun from it - worth all that effort.
Cheers mate - well done.

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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2009, 07:36:12 AM »
Looking good Andrew!!!

Are you going to use the rear caliper off the bike or the front?

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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2009, 08:16:57 AM »
Hey Tim,

I'm using the rear caliper, rear disc and rear master cylinder. I'm a bit worried about it because you said the brakes are not great with the front caliper, which I would think would be more powerful than the rear one. I guess I'll find out on the test drive.

Thanks very much Peter.

Andrew
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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #45 on: January 07, 2010, 06:43:52 AM »
THE BUGGY IS FINISHED!!! (sort of)



Just need a brake specialist to check out the braking system tomorrow (which doesn't work well at all) and it's test drive time. Then I'll just clean up the wiring, tighten up some bolts, etc.

Fun fun fun!
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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2010, 09:09:09 AM »
Hey jones, thought we lost you there. Haven't seen you post in a while.

Nice souding engine. Can't wait for some vids of you running around in it.

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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #47 on: January 07, 2010, 12:19:05 PM »
Well done looks a cool bit of machinery  :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Look forward to seeing the vid of the test drives.

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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2010, 12:42:16 PM »
Looking/ sounding good Andrew!  :thumbup:

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Re: My Sidewinder off-road buggy build
« Reply #49 on: January 07, 2010, 01:48:20 PM »
Wow! That is some machine - should be a bit nippy by the looks of it  :lol:
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