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| BillTodd:
--- Quote ---It turned out to be an Ancillotti, probably a 125 from 1977-78. I posted a few of his pics on the Italian forum and got the same answer, so negotiations ensued. --- End quote --- I seem to have a vague recollection of those machines (my brothers were very keen on motocross in the 70-80s so I got to see a lot of MX machinery) Is that an Austian Sach engine ? (a lot of bikes used them back then) Bill |
| madjackghengis:
I have to say, there is nothing in the damage done which I have not found in many of the bikes I've bought or traded for, and in truth, I find getting them that way is cheap, while getting one which "always got dealer servicing", often has hidden problems done little different than those displayed, but well hidden inside, and not providing one with leverage for a better deal. I have long lived above my means by getting things second hand, third hand, and "heavy handed with a hammer" as the most remarkable "assets" of the deal. I've also turned down some deals where the owner did such damage and thought it was no big deal and didn't affect the value at all, wanting full price as if it were ready to ride. In the end, all my best deals were from people who didn't know how to work on their machines, and did so anyway. I've bought a lot of guns that were disassembled for cleaning, reassembled wrong, and couldn't be taken apart without special knowledge and tools, and got them at ten or fifteen percent of their actual value. I'm always up for something that's been worked on by owners. :lol: mad jack |
| Kjelle:
Bill, and MrFluffy; That is a Hiro engine (CCM used them in the late 70's in 125 & 250 sizes). It.s pretty advanced for the time, with a DRY clutch (like the most expensive road racing bikes at the time, and Ducati works/NCR bikes), primary kick starting, stuff like that. Motoplat ignition with external flywheel (complete with light coil, if you wanted to make into an enduro bike). Foozer and Mad Jack, I haven't continued with this project, as the damage is too great to everything but the wheels, frame and triple clamps. I'll show you some more; This is what I found when I had disassembled the front fork... Magnesium sickness! Mag and dirt and water had conspired to eat away the magnesium above the locking ring (that holds the seals) and the inner fork legs were bent around 1/4" at the point they enter the lower triple clamp. Also, below the seals, there is a bushing to keep the inner legs straight, that is worn... There was no seat or tank with the bike, and while I could probably source a seat from Italy (at approx €200), the alloy tank is almost unobtainible. I'll settle for a normal steel tank, but those are also hard to find... http://s646.photobucket.com/albums/uu186/KjelleB/ has more pictures, and some comments from me It's not a dead project, I haven't thrown anything away, yet. It has taken thee back burner to another project. I'll show you more in coming posts, but first, a picture from a flyer, showing what it looked like from the factory in 1977; Kjelle |
| Kjelle:
Now, I have another Ancillotti, this one an enduro, also from '77. This one was bought via an ad on Tradera, the Ebay partner in Sweden. I found the ad, but before I could raise the money, the auction had ended, and I thought it was the end of it... But I mailed the seller, and it turned out that the deal had fallen through. So I asked how much he wanted. He was willing to sell it for the starting bid of 3500 SEK (€350), which I jumped on. This was just a couple of months after the first one... This is what the pic in the ad looked like; The seller had it as "Hiro 125 MX/enduro"... He lives on a farm about 200 km from Stockholm, and Me and my son went down there to pick it up. While taking the forks out, this happened; I thought at the time, it was due to cracks in the top nut, but it turned out to be the triple clamp/stem being bent (remember the almost pristine triples on the other bike? Yep I used them on this one) This one was in much better shape, but some earlier owner had spray bombed it black, mostly matte. What is it about black paint, that attracts mechanical nincompoops? My caption for this is "Never take a bike apart when you paint it! It's a waste of time... Not." In fact, except for normal wear, the only thing broken is a front engine mount (and also on the white one, exactly the same place)and rear brake shoes, and missing the carb to air box rubber and air box door! The cylinder was worn, and had a scratch in the chrome (but not as bad as the white bike). I'll end this post as the last one, with a picture of what it looked like back in the day... But it was availible in white, blue, yellow, and red (with red frame). Mine should be red, but this is the best picture I have found. It's exactly as mine, except for the color Kjelle |
| Kjelle:
To make a long story short, since I bought those two bikes 2 years ago, some things have happend... I used my fathers garage to store them in, among his woodworking stuff, mostly working outside during summer. The garage is (was) heated to between 5 and 10 degrees C. Here is a picture of the progress so far; Last November me and my wife bought the house from my parents, as they didn't have the strength to maintain it anymore. No work has been done to the garage yet, my Father will have free rein of as long as he can, with me helping to clean and organize it during the spring. I will probably keep it as my woodworking shop as long as he can keep up his work, and use the little one indoors as mine, but keep the larger parts out there. I need a woodshop, as we are remodelling the property bit by bit, both in and outside, including the garden. I have hope for at least finishing the complete frame, with everything but the engine done, this summer... Tomorrow, I'm leaving my newly found micrometers to that prototype shop, for checking and calibrating! Kjelle |
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