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Just bought a new toy, can you guess what my other hobby is? ...
Jonny:
Nice cars Nick with either engine.
Easy to tune up the ZE22 GM global engine used by 7 other manufacturers to my knowledge. Alfa Romeo, Fiat, Subaru, Opel/Vauxhall, two US makers. Parts off the shelf for 1000hp used in drag racing.
Theres a site specifically for that engine http://www.z22se.co.uk covering general repairs to full on mods, even EGR cheater been using one for 4 years. Thers even the same VX220 2.2 (ze22) with a full on rebuild.
Need an alternator belt? was doing away with aircon on mine.
Just doing a job for a chap over Peterborough that has the VX220 turbo running a shade over 300hp at wheels, no thanks not for me its a go cart for track days.
NickG:
Thanks Jonny,
I had no idea the engine was used in those cars. Tuning companies over here reckon it's difficult to tune but can't really see why. The supercharger kit looks tempting one day although it's pretty quick as it is! The back end managed to step out slightly going into 3rd and full throttle around a very slight left hand bend last night :palm: Won't do that again in a hurry! It's pretty controllable at the moment though.
I joined that site before I'd actually bought the car. What car do you have?
I knew mine had an EGR fault before I'd bought it - when the guy said I thought I'd do a search on it and found the cheater. Just made a blanking plate last night and built up the circuit - only cost pence. It didn't switch the light out straight away so I disconnected the battery over night and (touch wood, fingers crossed and all of that!) it's stayed out on the way to work. Also, the cooling fan had permanently switched itself on, apparently that sometimes happens as a fail safe when you get a fault? My circuit isn't as elegant as Vocky's - about twice as long :lol: but it's working so far! Something always goes wrong though - first bolt I came to on the egr was dead stiff, so I undid the other which was fine. Tried working the stiff one back and forth with WD40 but snap! :bang: So had to drill the bloomin' thing out which wasn't that easy and re-tap it half a turn at a time!
Wife not impressed, out in garage until 12am on valentines night! She forgot it was my birthday this morning though so we're even!
Wow, that must be actually scary! Would love a blast in it though, nothing on the roads must be able to touch it!
Nick
Jonny:
Wouldnt catch me in that like strapping a Busa in a go kart.
Had the first prototype cheater had to hard wire in, still on just see it here top right with them red connectors.
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL15/728921/6962373/259266234.jpg
Aircons gone now took the repo saw to it last year, easier access to bulkhead brake pipes, hence the VX220 belt.
Only a B Veccy.
Had the first import batch of the GM 2.4 inlet never fitted still in its box from Courtney, just need an ECU bracket.
Scrapping the car in two months 135k
NickG:
You're right the aircon and power steering make the aux belt a nightmare. When I had the problems with my clio I was going to bin both of them and make my own brackets and idler pulley but luckily I found a nice chap that installed the lot for me!
Does the 2.4 inlet have a diff throttle body too? Think it'd make much difference? Really like the look of the supercharger but £3800 for stage 1 from courntney. I think people have done it themselves for about half that by sourcing bits from the US and all over!
Nick
foozer:
Must be an age thing, Still remember the days of the putt putt, first Monte Carlo 1972 with the hi revving small block and M22 (came with auto, swapped it) 3.73 posi and a clutch that took a linebackers left leg to hold. The bumpty bump of the engine at idle trying to hold vacuum, then the sweet sound of 6500 rpm right before a gear change. Tend to forget the blown trannies, ring and pinions, and when the frame snapped at the rear right lower link attach point, well, as fun as that was, I think I'll pass on another adventure like that.
Must be age. Now its just another Monte, photos in this thread, lot tamer. But old dogs still have to have their bone and a hot rod just aint a hot rod without multiple carbs. MSD to give her good spark, no headers, too noisy. All new springs and poly bushings. When your trying to move 4000 lbs of iron around them rubber bushings just dont cut it. Way to big of a rear sway bar 1 1/8 inch, over-steer on dry and under-steer when wet. Been caught by the rain on occasion so might change it out.
Boy is that thing dirty, must be an age thing for hopping in setting the cruise and AC for a thousand or two mile road trip with no issues is the thing now-a-days. Course still like the sound of the 3 250cfm carbs sucking air at 5500 and the bit of tire chirp I get from the 2800 stall converter doing a 1-2 shift. Not that old.
Enjoy them toys now. Wonder how it will be when the today toys are tomorrows Old School.
Robert
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