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Chuck jaws - making them parallel...?
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Bogstandard:
David,

Thanks, nice to be with old friends again.

Unfortunately, your suggestion is a might dangerous. Maybe OK with a self centring, but with a four jaw independent, the jaws could be a fair way off exact centre to begin with, unless you used a largish washer and clocked up first on it's bore. Also some jaws are harder than others, that is why I recommend a surface grind method, tipped tools have a tendency to shatter when subjected to tough intermittent cuts.


Ade,

Being as you are on the same little island as myself, if it is your jaws that are out of square, get them to me and I will true them up for you on my surface grinder. A little extra 15 minute job like that I can easily cope with.


John
AdeV:
Chaps,

Firstly, thanks for the suggestions & offers. Some more info for you:

The chuck is a 10" 4-jaw independent. I just measured around 0.005" runout in the chuck body, but zero taper across as much of the length as I could read without changing the dial gauge setup, around 3" worth. This is the chuck that was on the lathe when I bought it, so I have no idea what abuse it has suffered in the past, only what abuse it has suffered since I had it (and that's some - this chuck has seen me from never touching a lathe, to now - nearly a year later).

The 2" steel bar I dialed in last night shows 0.002" TIR at the far end, and about 0.018" TIR at the chuck end. I know the bar is straight because it rolls quite cheerfully on my surface plate with no appreciable light gap. I also get the same effect whichever stock I put in the chuck - I have some 2" ali which is the same, some 5/8" tool steel (same) & 5/8" regular steel (same)... I can also sometimes knock it square with the plastic hammer (provided it's not in the jaws too tightly) - inevitably, when one tightens the jaws, you can feel when the stock moves off parallel again.

Dave - it is true I've had the chuck off a few times (it's bolted to a back plate type affair). I did once trap some swarf between chuck & back plate; that was instantly noticable (you could see the chuck wobbling), so I know it's clean back there at the moment. I've not actually removed the jaws to give them a really careful look-see, but I'm pretty sure it's not compacted swarf that's the problem. That said, I'll give 'em a good wire brushing to see if that fixes it.

David D - I had the same thought as John, the jaws are clearly hardened (they mark everything that comes into contact with them, they've even (slightly) marred the ER32 chuck I have which has a hardened body. I guess a carbide tip might touch them, but I'd be worried about chippage, not to mention getting the things accurately set in the first place.


John - thank you for the offer of the surface grind, if the wire brushing fails to have any effect, then I will be in touch for sure. I'm only about an hour's drive from you - if that - and I may well be passing Crewe in the next few days on another errand... I will PM you this afternoon if I may.

Bogstandard:
No problems Ade, for that sort of job, it is a wait while it is done type.

John
Stilldrillin:
Ok!

It's the way I've done it, over many years. Jaws clocked true, and a light duster pass, with a carbide boring tool......

David D
AdeV:
Ho-kay... I took each jaw off in turn (only 1 at a time so I didn't put them back in the wrong place  :med:), and whilst I don't have the facilities to measure taper, I did put each one on my surface plate; and not one of them sat dead steady; it was possible to rock all of them: one had a noticable end-to-end rock; two of the others a sort of diagonal-to-diagonal rock, the 4th was pretty close, with just a tiny bit of side-to-side action.

I took a bunch of photos which I'd hoped would show the gaps, but they're not terribly distinct.

Looks like I'll be taking up your offer of a surface grind, John... I'll PM you later on about that.

At least once the jaws are true, I'll know for sure how much spindle mis-alignment I've got....  :lol: <-- That's a slightly manic laugh...
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