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| raynerd:
Went to my local scrappy a few days ago and went straight away to the little black brass bin. I`m sure I`m the only one who goes to it or at least I`m certain similar stock is in there each time I go, infact, I`m certain I can identify the same pieces! Anyway, price last few times has been £2.80 / kg. The one down the road is £2.50 / kg but he only has brass bar in occasionally and they are normally massive. Infact, I`ve not been for a while as it pretty much dried up and besides at £2.80 I can always get what I want from the "black bin" as it has various sizes in there. Anyway, I went in and picked up a handful of bits and asked for a price... £4.00 / kg he said!!! "You’re a model engineer, I`ve seen the prices your paying for this stuff" ... I was well annoyed. Anyway, we weighed it and it came in at 6kg, we haggled and he really wouldn`t budge. I said what I use to pay and what it was at the scrappy down the road and he really wouldn`t move. I even nearly put it down but when he asked for £24, I said I had a £20 in my pocket and he took that which when only buying a small amount, actually brought the price down, unknowingly to him I think to £3.33 / kg . My point was, next time I go when he demands his £4 per kilo do I take it... I`m stubborn and I nearly put this lot down out of principle but when I thought about it I`d be cutting my nose of to spite my face. This is what I got for my money: Believe it or not but the drill stand was a gift from the worker who was watching me haggle with his boss! He knew he was fleecing me and ran out after me and said take that too! Lol, things must be bad!! He is a nice bloke but his boss is an ars3. I suppose when you sit back and look at what I got for £20 it isn`t so bad and much much cheaper than what I`d pay off ebay….of course the problem online is postage. I think I was just shocked with his change of price as though he had found out the sort of “online costs” and decided to shift his price to match. I know you shouldn`t judge people on what they wear but people do and I did go in wearing my scruffs but I`m going to send my bro in law in next time with his riggers on after a dirty day at work….see what price he asks off him. Oh and by the way... he scales are weighing low - I`ve got nearer 9kg of brass! |
| John Stevenson:
You are probably on the better off side. Just priced a job up today, 3/8" brass bar in 10'6" lengths before delivery and VAT is £27.00 two years ago it was £9.00 3 slices of 6" brass, 1" wide for slip rings, £85.00 each, these are all from my regular non ferous supplier who is usually on the ball on market prices. |
| wheeltapper:
You can make a good tapping stand with that drill press. Roy |
| Bluechip:
--- Quote from: John Stevenson on August 09, 2010, 04:28:55 PM ---You are probably on the better off side. Just priced a job up today, 3/8" brass bar in 10'6" lengths before delivery and VAT is £27.00 two years ago it was £9.00 3 slices of 6" brass, 1" wide for slip rings, £85.00 each, these are all from my regular non ferous supplier who is usually on the ball on market prices. --- End quote --- 14 quid-ish here for 3m of 3/8" ... unless you're after something posher than CZ121 .. shipping is horrendous tho .. but then long lengths .. dunno :scratch: http://www.aluminiumwarehouse.co.uk/Brass-Round_Bar/c99_115/p2730/Brass_Round_Bar_(CZ121)_3/8_in/product_info.html DBC |
| Lew_Merrick_PE:
Were I a wise man (rather than just a wise guy), I might have some answers here. Back in 2005 I needed 16,000 lbs of ø12.00 HRS merchant round bar. The best price we could get was $1.65/lb here in the U.S. The price has dropped since then to about $0.85/lb for HRS merchant bar. I am told repeatedly that this is because the Chinese are bidding up the price of steel. I am somewhat amused by this as I often write reports on bids for medium-scale manufacturing. When you "back out" the known pricing, it is apparent that the Chinese are charging us (Americans at a minimum) between $0.02 and $0.04 per pound for low and medium carbon steel. Back in 2003 I delivered an assembly fixture to a customer in (Vancouver) Canada. The original fixture was built in 1994 for a short-run assembly. My customer was going to pick up (and pay for) the fixture when they got the "and-on" order. This did not happen until 2003 and, needing to meet with another customer in the area, I drove it up. The base of the fixture was a piece of (1 X 28 X 42 inch) aluminum plate. They (my customer for the fixture) decided that they wanted to build it up on a CI surface plate they had picked up, so we transferred the hole pattern and I took the plate back with me. Had I not had the receipts for the plate with me, American customs would have charged me $1100+ in "duties" for the plate. At the time in question, 6061-T6 aluminum plate was selling for $8.45/lb in the U.S. -- but only $2.65/lb in Canada. It has been cheaper for me to go to the local Harbor Freight store and buy Chinese anvils than it is for me to go to wrecking yards and buy "can't be turned again" brake drums when I want CI for a casting. Once again, the statement is made that the Chinese have driven up the price of scrap CI. If that is true, why are they selling us CI anvils for less than 1/3rd what they charge for CI in the form of anvils? I have no idea what is going on in this regard. |
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