Thing have been a little slow, bin on Gardening Duties and looking after our grand son.
Any way made some progress with a backward step thrown in, more about this later.
Made the former for the backhead plate you this former for the throat plate as well. First square it up so that you've got four good edges on each face, then blue it up and mark it out on the mill.

Then centre pop the line to give you something to work too.

Then mill out the shape I used the rotory table this time, it just fitted the clamping is not too elligant, but hay:- its effective.

Then it was just a matter of tidying up the plates on the former her they are all done with the formers.

Now to drill the tube plates now I know that "drilling soft copper can be tricky",

I've seen lots of pics where guys have mounted tubes plates onto lathe face plates so that the holes can be bored because "drilling soft copper can be tricky"

but for some reason I decided to do the drilling on my pillar drill, its not a bad pillar drill but its not as good as my mill for drilling, I clamped the smoke box tube plate onto a plank of wood and drilled the first 3/8" hole all was well, now I know that "drilling soft copper can me tricky",

second ran out nearly into the first hole that I drilled, I stopped and tried rectifying it by drilling from the other side but this only made things worse:- strike one tube plate

OK it's a scrapper:- so decided to drill the rest of the holes any way to perfect the best method.
Over too the mill:- this is the set up, the plate was position over a slot for the drill to run into and clamping onto a chunk of wood in the middle, so the flange wouldn't be damaged.

That worked like a dream why didn't I do that to begin with

OK have a go with the 3/4" supper heater holes now I know that "drilling soft copper can me tricky",

so similar set up, but this time I sat the plate on some parallels flat side on, as the 3/4" was to wide to fit between a slot,:-a 3/8" pilot drill then straight in with the 3/4" now I know that "drilling soft copper can me tricky",

that one wandered off centre as well I should have used another pilot drill.
OK second 3/4" hole this time 3/8" followed by 1/2" followed by 3/4" perfect
This is the scrap plate, the 3/4" hole on the left is the one that run out. you can work out for your selves which 3/8" hole went wrong.

Guess what I'll be buying at the Harrogate show, still I've got the formers know.
Stew
Who knows that "drilling soft copper can me tricky"
