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bogstandard:
Actually this post has turned into yet ANOTHER and ANOTHER and ANOTHER Paypal bashing exercise rather than what the original question was about, which I think ended with Chris doing a sob job.

To hopefully put an end to all this, I actually support Paypal wholeheartedly.

All I can say is that over the long time that I have used it, Paypal has done nothing but good for me, so I personally don't give a rat's a**e about what it gets up to with other people. I have had dealings with bad sellers, and everything has turned out to my satisfaction, and I will tell you now, they were real bad sellers, so it works both ways. Why should I personally give up or even question a system that works great for me on the say so of a few who have had bad dealings with rogues, whether thru their own fault or not.

Because I don't use credit cards, Paypal has kept the world open to me for when I want to purchase something, and not just thru Ebay.

Would you expect anyone to compensate you for getting yourself into a deal with some unsavoury character or the actions of an abysmal postal system? If the answer is no, then why expect Paypal to do it.

Like any other financial company would do, they would just put things back to a situation where they are not involved, and expect yourself to take the necessary action to recover your cash thru whatever means you have at your disposal. If that means getting the police involved because of fraud, or claiming off the postal services for lost packages, then that is what needs to be done.

The only thing that I do agree with on this argument is that sellers should also be able to give bad reports as well. Other than that, nothing.



Bogs

Darren:
Keep using it and your time will come ....

There have been many just like you who say "F*&^ you Jack I'm OK" only to be sorry later...

As for not posting on the topic .... why not, do you think others should not be made aware of how they may be ripped off before it happens? After all these are hardly isolated cases are they.

Or is it just another "I'm Ok....................."

I do get tired of you trying to dictate what others should or should not say or do. We are friends John, long may it continue. But at 40 odd years old my mother stopped instructing me long ago and I'm not about to let someone else take her place.

This is the water Cooler section ... deliberately set-up for off beat topics. As they say, if you don't like it ................

Rant over, hopefully we will still be able to chat later  :thumbup:

NickG:
Touch wood, I haven't had anything go wrong yet but it has definitely put me off selling and I have held back on selling anything since these posts arose. The problem I have is that ebay is an auction site and in an auction it's supposed to be sold as seen and a legally binding contract, so the only person authorised to give any money back should be the seller in my opinion. Buy at risk is the way it works in auctions.

Nick

AdeV:
As a buyer, PayPal is fabulous. Completely free to use, and great comeback if anything goes wrong with the deal. I've used their dispute resolution twice, both times they found (rightly, as it happens...) in my favour.

As a seller, PayPal makes me nervous. Not only do I hear of the worrisome reports of people being forced to repay money even though the buyer is a crook, but the even more alarming stories of PayPal freezing accounts with a positive balance & refusing to subsequently release those funds, even once the dispute in question is resolved. Unfortunately, if you want to sell on eBay (which, arguably, attracts the largest possible audience of non-commercial buyers on the planet), you're stuck with accepting PayPal. It's the rules.

Darren:
That's right, you have to have a Paypal acc before they will let you sell on Ebay. And you can't refuse Paypal payments.
Actually cash has now been banned, mention cash in your listing and you can expect trouble from Ebay.

Then you get jokers like this https://www.paypal-talk.co.uk/have-your-say/Comments/December-2009/Ebay-sale/?title=

I'm totally amazed at the constant stream of new ways buyers find to use the Paypal system to rip sellers off.

I've said this before, there are scams for buyers too and we are not talking about selling doggy goods.

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