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Darren:
Hi Don, wasn't trying to doubt you, and appreciate what you are saying.
Just adding that sometimes there is an exception and I fully expected this site to vanish long ago. I believe it's reasonably popular, maybe it's the hits that keep it up?
I understand that Photobucket has had it's problems with many people loosing their pictures all at once with no explanation? Do you know anything of this?
I have no idea of course, or answers.
dsquire:
--- Quote from: Darren on December 06, 2009, 01:18:17 AM ---Hi Don, wasn't trying to doubt you, and appreciate what you are saying.
Just adding that sometimes there is an exception and I fully expected this site to vanish long ago. I believe it's reasonably popular, maybe it's the hits that keep it up?
I understand that Photobucket has had it's problems with many people loosing there pictures all at once with no explanation? Do you know anything of this?
I have no idea of course, or answers.
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Darren
I think it has to do with people being given FREE photo accounts and then after a while they exceed the FREE bandwidth which is what Photobucket hopes for. Then you have to wait for your 1 month anniversary before your bandwidth is reset. The other option is to buy a pro Photobucket account for about $25.00 a year and higher bandwidth. If you don't log into your account for a year they close it down by sending you an email to the email you gave when you registered and giving you 2 weeks notice. Then they close the account but keep the photo's on file for 3 month before deleting them. Some people panic when their photo's are not available rather than checking as to what has really happened and taking the necessary steps to recover them.
I think that is basically it in a nut shell Darren. I found most of this out by going on the Photobucket site and reading the "Terms and Conditions", you know, all the fine print that nobody ever bothers to read.
Cheers :beer:
Don
dsquire:
--- Quote from: djh82uk on December 04, 2009, 04:52:28 PM ---Hi Guys
I run a small hosting reseller company on the side, have got a few small customers to help pay the hosting, which means that I get the rest of the server for almost free, I have about 20Gb bandwidth spare each month and quite a bit of space. I would be more than happy to set something up so that anyone can upload pics & link to them, all free of course, no catches.
The server has been there for 5 years and ain't going anywhere soon.
If interested let me know. I would still advise to keep local backups however, just for your own peace of mind
DJH
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DJH
It is very generous of you to make the offer to upload photo's and link to them for free. While this might be a solution for several members on an interim basis I don't believe that it would be a long term solution. What I am after is a solution that will protect your photo's and all the members that post very knowledgeable and helpful posts that are illustrated with pictures after we are all dead and buried and not able to pay for a photobucket account or even log in just to keep the FREE account active. Not preserving the photo's and video's is the same as taking the books written by James Watt, Thomas Edison, Alexander Graham Bell, etc. and tearing out all the illustration from their books. The text that is left behind is mostly garbage.
For me, it doesn't really matter as I post very few photo's and if I do they are posted direct. It is the other people's photo's that I am concerned about. I believe that their good information should be preserved to help the new members learn.
Cheers :beer:
Don
Bernd:
--- Quote from: dsquire on December 06, 2009, 12:37:54 AM ---
I have the option of running a small web site as part of my Internet providers benefits. While this would do me at present for my photo needs as I post very few, it would not solve the problem that I am trying to get at. When we die or whatever happens to us their will be no one keeping our Internet service payed up therefore it will cease to exist as will any photos or videos that I might be hosting on it.
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I've often wondered about that myself. Could it be we ourselves are not willing to do a little more to preserve what we have done. As an example of a picture intensive thread I'll use my thread of moving the Bridgeport into my basement. Now, I could preserve all that text and pics by saving it to DVD disk. I have the knowledge and computer to do it with. Then with specific instructions it can be made available to whom ever after your gone. Another solution would be to copy a thread that interests you and make a copy of it to DVD. It would be kind of like borrowing a book from the library, photo copying it and keeping a copy knowing that down the road the library may dissapear.
--- Quote ---Suppose that I had came up with a new way to build a new machine and wrote it up in a new project post. It consisted of about 500 posts and was very well documented with photographs and videos. Great, everybody loved it and had praise for me. Then without warning I have a heart attack and am dead. 30 days later nobody pays my Internet, my account is closed and now in that lovely 500 post document there are over 300 little boxes all neatly lined up in rows and they each have the same text in them. Picture or Video not Available.
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See above.
--- Quote ---I think we have to come up with a way to keep the text, photo's and video all stored in one place so that it will survive us and be available for the next and future generations to learn from or laugh at.
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I'm all (ears) eyes here. As I've said above I've wondered about this also. I don't see a costless solution to the problem at the moment though. I think if an individual liked a thread well enough that he/she would copy it over to a meduim that could then be passed around. If I saved my Bridgeport thread on DVD and gave a copy to the one of the younger memebers he could then post that DVD if anything should ever happen to me.
If you look at it in the long run if Eric ever decided he no longer had any interest in this forum and shut it down, what would happen to all the info? Would somebody take it over or would it dissapear forever? I'd have to say the short term solution is to make a copy of the thread that interests you. Of course not all threads would probably be saved.
--- Quote ---I don't want to step on toe's here but I guess if people want to open a Internet Site they should decide what they want for content and what they are willing to pay to support. Do they only want text? Do they want photo's? Do they want Video's? Maybe members will have to pay a small membership fee for this privilege or heaven forbid even advertising.
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I don't think your stepping on toes here Don. It's part of a discusion for seeking a solution to a problem. I'm sure it would not be for everybody.
So lets keep the dialogue going and see if somebody has a solution. Might not be today or tomorrow, but somewere down the road.
Regards,
Bernd
djh82uk:
Ok
An idea, I offered my server earlier that could be used to host peoples images, videos etc. Another option is to setup a wiki that all the mods, admins and senior member can access, when you get an informative posts (for instance bogs making a flywheel thread), the relevant info/images etc can be setup as a page on the wiki.
Eventually you end up with a very informative and image rich wiki site as a backup, it can also be used to hold public domain plans, manuals etc.
something like wiki.madmodder.net
That way your not just preserving the images, but the whole content in such a way that the rest of the thread is taken out (people saying well done etc)
not only that, the wiki will show up on search engines due to it's rich content which provides an extra load of visitors to to find this site helping to grow it's userbase.
The forums great, but obviouslu the older posts can become obscured by the pages that come before it, and people wont always read all the way through a 10 page thread.
Just an idea
DJH
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