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sbwhart:
Looking good on the base Nick :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Your little tweaks I'm sure will get it running.

Stew

Darren:
That is a very neat looking build you have there Nick, you certainly are making a finished job of it :clap:

Be nice to see it running though :dremel:

NickG:
To be honest, I'm pretty gutted it doesn't run. I haven't put as much care and attention into anything before, and I think it's a good improvement on all of my other builds. Maybe it's a step to far too early.

I still have options though. If it doesn't run now, hopefully I can get things nice and true and parallel with the adjustable reamer and plenty of oil, the only issue is the wall is getting pretty thin now, so if that doesn't work it'll need sleeving but still all is not lost.

If that doesn't work I'll be stuck for ideas and it would mean certain features of the engine that shouldn't be critical to it running, in fact are ... at which point I'll try making the poppin flame licker! There are a lot more examples of that running, infact that is one of the first engines I used to just stare at, mesmorised at exhibitions and steam fairs when I was a teenager! I have seen tiny flame lickers in the past that run really well and should only have a fraction of the power of this comparatively large one, unless this isn't a particularly efficient design.

Nick

ps I have also seen another design but never seen one working. I actually thought of this myself but then when was doing some research realised that somebody had infact already thought of it! :doh:

It's a very simple idea so probably a lot of people have pondered it. Imagine an oscillating engine or wobbler but with the exhaust port not drilled. On the down stroke it sucks a flame in through the inlet port and once it gets to bottom dead centre the port is closed - it is effectively sealed. Gases cool down causing the under-pressure and atmosphere pushes the biston back to TDC. The only issues I see here are that the seal relies on a pushing the faces together which would cause a bit of friction., and the timing is implicit in the design. Although by drilling the port in the right place you might be able to tweak the overlap etc. This could be worth experimenting with but is a bit of a journey into the unknown and likely to make me even more :( and :bang:

When I first set my workshop back up a few years ago, a guy on CNC zone posted a pic of such an engine and one of his own which was unusual too (see attached)

NickG:
Got a bit done on the burner last night! Took me ages for some reason, I didn't have the metal to hand, then I couldn't decide how to do it! I will post pics of progress later on tonight. Got the bottom of the burner done. Out for a team building thing tonight, 10 pin bowling and a few drinks so doubt I'll get in the garage until Saturday night now. But this weekend should see the burner finished off. Then it'll be testing the engine and probably deciding what I need to re-work.

Nick

NickG:
Made more progress last night and finished the burner for the engine, which completes the last piece of the engine – but unfortunately not the last piece of the puzzle :o( More on that in a bit though!

Here’s how I did the burner:
I had a bit of copper tube in mind, only slight annoyance is it had some sort of plating on it. Turned up a nylon bung to fit the tube as I quickly realised I was just going to crush it in the chuck.

Faced off to length:

I have about a foot of 1 ¼” ish cast gunmetal, have no idea where it came from but I decided to use that for top and bottom:
Facing and putting register on:

Parting off:

Good fit:

Ready for soft soldering, I just used some electrical solder and some of that soft solder paste stuff which acts as a good flux:

After a little cleaning up:

Facing off due to parting pip:

Here it is with the bottom soldered in place and a bit of polishing. I haven’t fully got the plating off but it’ll do!

Turning the top was pretty much the same as the bottom; just put this pic in to show the weird difference in surface finish part way across the cut. Must be something to do with the way it’s been cast.

I drilled an air hole then a hole angled at 22.5 degrees. I was worried I wouldn’t get close enough to the cylinder with the wick if not. I then turned a stainless steel bush and loctited it in before a bit more polishing. The fit of the cap is a tiny bit tight really, well, it’s just there’s not much to grip to get it off! A pain when it’s ½ full as you tend to spill meths! I was originally planning on putting a little knurled knob on it but couldn’t be bothered!

Pic of it on engine base:

I tried to run it again tonight unsuccessfully. I did find out a few things though. On mine, it seems some sort of lubrication is going to be essential. Without it, the meths I’m using puts a nasty deposit on it pretty quickly, jamming it up. But with oil present, it doesn’t build up.

I’m not sure why it won’t run but have been in contact with Jan ridders who is going to do some experiments on valve timing and let me know the outcome. I just can’t get much out of it at all. The most promising results were when I slackened the rear collar off – this means that when the valve shuts, the suction pulls it further into the cylinder. I then almost get a sort of power stroke if the flywheel has enough momentum to carry it over – however, at that point the valve gets a bit tight in the bore so I clearly have clearance issues. If I take a little off it to avoid it being tight, it’ll probably not be sufficiently air tight. I think I may need to ream the cylinder bore out and make new piston and valve.
Also, at the same time, because the valve got stuck, me spinning the flywheel loosened it on the crankshaft and because I’ve stupidly put the grub screw somewhere I can’t get at, It’ll have to come to bits to tighten back on. In doing this though, I found another possible issue. When the flywheel was loose, I moved the conrod manually with the flame present and if I quickly put it past bdc, I felt a definite power stroke trying to pull it back. So I’m thinking of trying an experimental aluminium flywheel as I fear my big dia. Cast iron jobbie might have too high moment of inertia.

Another thing I noticed whilst studying the pictures, tips etc on Jan’s site was that his wick is about 2 x the diameter of mine. So maybe the width of flame needs to be much bigger. Not sure if I have scope in my burner to go quite that big so would need to re-make the lid.
Sorry if all that is difficult to understand. I find myself rambling when things aren’t going to plan! When I looked at the design of the engine, I didn’t think there were many variables as they were inherent in the design – how wrong was I! Still, hopefully I’ll get there one day.

Disappointing but lots of things to try. I just need to do them in a logical order.

Nick

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