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Re: 1/16 Scale RC Truck parts
« Reply #50 on: March 26, 2025, 09:09:42 AM »
Still following... :coffee:
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Re: 1/16 Scale RC Truck parts
« Reply #51 on: March 26, 2025, 10:15:54 PM »
Thanks, I was beginning to think I was just talking to myself again.  But since I'm the only one in the house, I guess at least I'm always talking to the smartest person in the room?
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Re: 1/16 Scale RC Truck parts
« Reply #52 on: March 31, 2025, 10:12:21 PM »
I don't really know much about big trucks, or model trucks for that matter, so I look at your renderings with admiration, but not a lot of comprehension about what's needed or important in the mechanics. I'm glad you do explain, and post these things and your progress, and I'm sure I'll learn more in reading about it.  :beer:
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Re: 1/16 Scale RC Truck parts
« Reply #53 on: April 05, 2025, 02:57:53 AM »
OK, I've found out that I'm going to have to revisit my chassis design a little.  So far I've been sticking to the measurements taken off the Bruder MAN mixer, but that's gonna have to change a little.  I'm going to have to modify the axle spacing/locations a little.  I cannot find an off the shelf axle that will fit the existing center axle to rear axle spacing.  I currently have an absolute minimum drive shaft length of 42mm.  When you add in the 7mm I need to be able collapse the drive shaft to take it out. then I need a drive shaft that has a minimum length of 35mm.  I was able to find drive shafts in the 30-36mm range, but they only had a 2mm ID with a 6mm OD.  Nope, that ain't happenin'.  I did find a Lesu drive shaft with a 5mm bore in the 45-50mm range, and have one headed my way.  It costs 3 times as much as any of the other drive shafts, but none of them can be made to fit.

My current plan is to add 5mm to the  spacing between the center and rear axle, and play with their locations a little so I don't mess up the drive shafts coming off the transfer case.  By adding the 5mm to the axle to axle spacing, I SHOULD get into the middle of the range of motion for the Lesu drive shaft.  Unfortunately it also means that the drive shaft and the axle have to be installed/removed as a unit.
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Re: 1/16 Scale RC Truck parts
« Reply #54 on: April 08, 2025, 01:18:51 AM »
More parts arrived today, the 60-70mm drive shafts showed up.  I DO believe that they will work for the drive shafts from the transfer case to the front and center axles.  According to the tracking info, the Lesu axles should be here on Saturday - we'll see if they'll work out then.  I still have to modify the drive pins for the drive shafts.  I need to turn the pins down from 3mm to 2mm.  I'll need to make bushings to support the unthreaded end of the drive pins in the drive shaft knuckles since those holes are currently 3mm.I'll also need to make bushings for the transfer case end of both the drive shafts, which needs 4mm bores but currently have 5mm bores.  I'll probably have to modify the drive pins, and make bushings for the the Lesu drive shafts too. 

Pretty soon I'm going to have to quit thinking of this as a generic design project. and make it an actual Work In Progress.  We are getting dangerously close to the point where this work will only be applicable to one truck.
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Re: 1/16 Scale RC Truck parts
« Reply #55 on: April 09, 2025, 11:30:45 PM »
I have found out that I needed to slightly modify my Frankendiff pinion housing design.  The hole for the drive shaft's drive pin wouldn't line up with the hole in the pinion shaft.  I must have fat-fingered a dimension because the outer bearing needed to be moved 1mm toward the axle shaft.  I just had to decrease the extrusion that formed the nose of the pinion housing from 9mm to 8mm.  While I was at it, I went back thru the design and removed anything that I'd done to optimize the design for FDM printing. 

I've got a resin printer now and one of these days I gonna hafta put on my Big Boy pants and actually USE it.
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Re: 1/16 Scale RC Truck parts
« Reply #56 on: April 10, 2025, 11:23:52 AM »
What could go wrong?  :zap:  :beer:
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Re: 1/16 Scale RC Truck parts
« Reply #57 on: April 11, 2025, 12:19:31 AM »
What could go wrong?  :zap:  :beer:

Hopefully nothing, but then again Murphy shows up uninvited WAY too often.
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Re: 1/16 Scale RC Truck parts
« Reply #58 on: April 12, 2025, 02:30:50 PM »
Sometimes I think Quality Control is a totally unknown concept in certain parts of the far-east.  Some of the stuff is high quality, but there are a LOT of times when what you actually get is a kit of mostly usable parts.  ALL of the SCX10 rear axles I ordered came from different vendors, but the same supplier, and none of them were really usable when the arrived.  All of them are almost impossible to turn.  I chased that problem back to the fact that they arrived with an interference fit between the spider gears in the differential.  I had to remove 0.3mm from the backside of each axle gear before things started to work properly.  BUT, they are fixable. 

I ordered some plastic bushings for the knuckle pivots on the powered steer axle I'm building.  They were SUPPOSED to have a 3mm ID, it's under 2.8mm.  Fortunately the OD is correct so they also are fixable.

I ordered drive shafts from 3 different manufacturers, 2 out of the 3 suppliers have the knuckles properly phased to minimize vibration.  The third supplier... not so much.  The knuckles are are least 10 degrees out of phase, and I'm not sure if there's going to be any fixing it.

And then, I've got a gotcha that's kinda my own creation.  ALL of the drive shafts that I ordered are SUPPOSED to fit an SCX10, come with a 5mm bore  and have drive pins that are threaded M4 on one end with the other end turned down to 2.5mm.  My axles are SUPPOSED to be SCX10 replacement axles, but they all have holes for 2mm drive pins in the 5mm OD pinion shaft.   I could bore the pinion shafts out to 2.5mm, since the Kong axle that I have has a 5mm pinion shaft with a 2.5mm drive pin hole.  The Unimog replacement twin motor/2-speed gearbox that I got as a power unit has 4mm OD output shafts that are threaded M2.

So, here's my first dilemma, do I modify the pinion shafts?  Or, do I modify the drive pins?  Initially I was leaning towards modifying the drive pins, now I'm not so sure.  If I modify the pinion shafts, I just punch the drive pin holes out to 2.5mm and call it a day.  If I modify the drive pins by turning them down to 2mm, then I also have bush the hole in the drive shaft down to 2mm.  Otherwise they'd be, to quote Wes from Watch Wes Work, "floppin' around like a hot dog in a hallway."  Metal fatigue would probably cause the 2mm pin to break off in a short time.  I think I just talked myself into modifying the pinion shafts.

My second dilemma is that the output shafts on the Unimog transfer case have a 4mm OD.  Bushing the transfer case end of the drive shaft down to 4mm is no problem.  They also have a pre-machined flat that is threaded M2.  My first thought was to bore the M2 threads out to 2mm, since they are effectively that size now.  I was planning on just having one drive pin that would work on either end, but that's just gonna make a lot of extra work for myself.  I think what I'll do for the transfer case drive pins is cut a chunk off the 2.5mm end of the pin and turn the stub down to about 1.5mm - or whatever will fit in the M2 threads.  The set screw on the flat will be the actual clamping/driving force, the little stub is just extra insurance if the set screw comes loose.

Don
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Re: 1/16 Scale RC Truck parts
« Reply #59 on: April 13, 2025, 12:21:18 PM »
No idea what you're talking about, Don, without pics anyway, but I trust that you do! As far as overseas purchases go, I always assume a kit of parts, but enjoy the low prices for them, and basically I'm a DIY guy anyway, so if I could just buy everything, and it all arrived in perfect working order, well, what would I have to do for fun?  :lol:
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Re: 1/16 Scale RC Truck parts
« Reply #60 on: April 14, 2025, 01:16:32 AM »
what would I have to do for fun?  :lol:

Steve, you could always do what I do and complain about the quality of the parts you're getting. 

As far as having a better idea of what I talking about, when I modify the pinion shafts and drive shafts I'll take some pictures and things should become a little more clear.

Don
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Re: 1/16 Scale RC Truck parts
« Reply #61 on: April 14, 2025, 01:02:29 PM »
cool!  :beer:
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Re: 1/16 Scale RC Truck parts
« Reply #62 on: April 26, 2025, 01:48:45 AM »
I found that Lesu makes a driveshaft with a 40-45mm range.  I initially had 37mm between the center axle and the rear axle.  If I add 5mm to my center/rear axle spacing that will put me in the middle of the Lesu driveshaft's range.  I did some checking, and the only 3D printed part that I really need to modify to do this is the equalizer beam.

Eventually I will have to determine the hole sizes/locations for the frame rails, but that's a problem for future me.

Don
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