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Moving from Windows 7 to windows 10 - testing 1-2-3
awemawson:
My original genuine bought by me Win 7 source disks cannot generate a clean load Win7 machine as the Microsoft registration system has been knocked on the head. They come up with the message that the software is not genuine (it is) or it needs activation.
I was given a copy of Microsoft Toolkit which allows me to activate almost anything Microsoft ! Microsoft Security Essentials sees it as a virus, so needs suspending until activation is complete, but then can be restarted.
Every 12 months or so I have to re-activate - in deed I did it on my workshop PC only the other day.
sorveltaja:
--- Quote from: Spurry on February 03, 2023, 05:30:32 AM ---Very interesting, another Win7 diehard. I still have that mountain to climb. My biggest worry is how my old programs would like a new OS like Win10.
Pete
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How old programs do you use?
I tried paint shop pro 8.1 (about from year 2003) and office 97(whose installer is so old that it didn't work even in win 7, but its programs like excel can still be used), and both seem to work just fine when running win 10 in VM. Haven't looked yet what the 'compatibility mode' is like. But it wasn't needed with those programs, though.
So yeah, I use such an old "abandonware" almost daily for image processing and spreadsheets. They are just perfect ones for simple tasks.
sorveltaja:
--- Quote from: hanermo on February 03, 2023, 08:03:43 AM ---And the win10 spams are minimal .. apart from extremely bothersome endless upgrades if I donŽt use it for a few weeks.
Once I get the time (hah), IŽll tweak the win10 system to not peek or upgrade or spam system upgrades and or program upgrades so much.
This is difficult, laborious, and causes endless cascade errors, where a new sw kit needs access to a, needing library b, needing update c.
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It isn't necessarily that difficult to disable windows updates. For a home user/tinker, it's probably ok to test it and see what relief it is what happens.
sorveltaja:
--- Quote from: philf on February 03, 2023, 02:35:59 PM ---Recently my workshop laptop (running Windows 7 Pro 32 bit) failed to boot one day. No problem - I'll restore it to how it was. Only to find my backup on a portable USB was corrupt.
I asked around for some Win 7 install disks (as a download is no longer available from Microsoft) - no-one had any. I then emailed a friend who gave me .iso files for Win 7 Pro in 32 & 64 bit versions on a USB stick.
I first tried the 64 bit but, try as I might, couldn't get a wireless connection. I reformatted the drive and installed the 32 bit version. I had the same problem - no wireless.
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The win 7 versions you tried, did they have service pack 1 integrated in them? Just a thought. If win 7 worked before, and not anymore - it's like something is missing.
But anyways, glad to hear that you got it sorted out :beer:.
philf:
--- Quote from: sorveltaja on February 03, 2023, 08:12:09 PM ---The win 7 versions you tried, did they have service pack 1 integrated in them? Just a thought. If win 7 worked before, and not anymore - it's like something is missing.
But anyways, glad to hear that you got it sorted out :beer:.
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Sorveltaja,
I don't know if they included service packs. The guy who gave them to me is an IT professional so guess he would have had access to the latest versions.
[Edit: I since Googled the files I was given & "Windows 7, Professional version, with service pack 1, 64 bit, new install, English language".]
When I'd finished the installation and tried to install drivers which I'd downloaded on my other laptop I got an error message about a missing DLL file which I had to patch. I then managed to get broadband access via a cable direct from my router but after messing about for hours gave up on the wireless. If I hadn't have had alternative access to the web I wouldn't even have got that far.
Cheers.
Phil.
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